Strike
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This is bad in more ways than one. http://blog.thenewstribune.com/crim...-at-would-be-buyer-who-pulled-knife-stole-it/
Sent from my iPhone.
Sent from my iPhone.
Probably would have gone down a bit different if he had been OC instead of concealed.
This is why CC'ing doesn't deter crime. The only one who had the "element of surprise" was the bad guy.
As already pointed out, he should not have shot at someone who was running away and was not a danger to him. He could have chased him I suppose, without drawing.
Also, I'm not surprised he missed. The bad guy was running away from him, and he only fired once, which means either logic got the better of him and he stopped firing, or the bad guy rounded a corner and he no longer had a shot.
Either way, "range time" doesn't help if the only practice you get is how to stand in one spot with no cover and shoot at a target that is standing in one spot with no cover. Combat is significantly different, both parties are moving, exchanging fire, and using cover and concealment. People like to think that, because they can hit a stationary man-sized target from 50 yards when they are calm and have ample time to breathe and acquire their target, they can hit a real person who is moving, ducking, dodging, diving, sprinting, and maybe even shooting back.
The intent of CC isn't to deter crime, it's for personal defense.
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The intent of CC isn't to deter crime, it's for personal defense.
The intent of CC isn't to deter crime, it's for personal defense. <snip>
CCer, attacked by thug wielding a knife. Will a thug desiring to commit a crime attack a OCer by wielding a knife to gain compliance from his victim?The intent of CC isn't to deter crime, it's for personal defense. <snip>
My brother has a pair of Belgian Malinois dogs. They are not human companions. They are guard dogs. His place sits on 3 acres, fenced. My brother has posted the legal requirements concerning the presence of these guard dogs on the fence.
Now Scotty. Let's say you had a desire to enter that property. In which scenario would you be more likely to attempt an entry:
A. Signs up, no dogs present....
or
B. Signs up, at least two large dogs present, and able to respond in a split second?
My brother doesn't keep those dogs to attack people as a means of self protection. He has them as a deterrence to possible harm. Much more responsible than concealing the presence of the dogs, safer for all involved, effective. They serve as a deterrent to those maybe intending harm, and as those two dogs are not concealed, they are able to do their job without having to be first loosed. You step into their domain, you will be greeted. No cumbersome cage doors to deal with, no obstructions to hamper their quick and effective delivery of service.
Now it's true somebody might try to steal those two dogs, just like an open carrier being a target for a gun grab. Or shoot them. I'd certainly welcome legitimate reference of either happening with any frequency in Minnesota Scotty.
It sure would be convenient to deter crime that may be perpetrated against me rather than trying to stop a crime in progress against me. Just saying.I have a Rottweiler for the same reason.
I understand the point of your post, but there is a difference in most states between protecting your property, and trying to "deter" crime on out on the streets. I don't mind it to a point, but it can be taken too far - just ask Zimmerman, I bet he wishes he would have remained a reluctant participant. I carry for personal protection only, and I take that responsibility very seriously. I'm not of the mindset that I as a gun carrier am now here to deter crime.
I'm not of the mindset that I as a gun carrier am now here to deter crime.
The story is kinda short, we don't know for sure when the shot was fired. The phone owner should have never told police he fired a shot, just reported the phone stolen.First off, the seller should have drawn and shot immediately once the knife was pulled, not while the thief was running away. I know in my state it's illegal to shoot someone that is not a threat to your life or is not causing you great bodily harm, ie a guy running away from you. This sounds like a mindset/training issue.
Should have used ebay. Then again, don't own an iPhone and it won't get stolen, silly hipsters.
ScottE said:The intent of CC isn't to deter crime, it's for personal defense.
ScottE said:I'm not of the mindset that I as a gun carrier am now here to deter crime.
With the information available it seems he only violation is a misdemeanor
Tacoma Municipal Code
8.12.010 Disorderly persons defined and enumerated.
The following persons are hereby declared to be disorderly persons:6. Any person, except the police officers of the City, engaged in the lawful discharge of their duty, and persons practicing at target shooting in a duly licensed shooting gallery who shall fire off or discharge any bomb, gun, pistol, or firearm of any kind within the City limits.
A similar incident occurred in Yakima County last year and no charges as he was not in a restricted discharge of firearms area.