Homeland Youth Corps

metalman383 · Oct 19, 2012

So what do you think about this?

http://www.whiteoutpress.com/articl...rity-graduates-first-corps-of-homeland-youth/

BriKuz · Oct 19, 2012

<sarcasm> Where can I sign up? This sounds like fun! I get to destroy anti-american scum who want to live their own lives and not the lives the government ordained for them! I wan to join and have my head shrunk into compliance!!!</sarcasm>

Jack House · Oct 20, 2012

Hitler Youth~

Citizen · Oct 20, 2012

Oh, jeez. I had forgotten about them. So, the National Socialists went ahead with the program.

Sounds like we need a Liberty Youth Corps.

Individual local chapters can be called Committees of Correspondence.

Gil223 · Oct 20, 2012

I just read a similar article at http://beforeitsnews.com/economics-...eland-youth-the-new-hitler-youth-2445482.html , which says, in-part:

October 7, 2012. Vicksburg. The federal government calls them FEMA Corps. But they conjure up memories of the Hitler Youth of 1930’s Germany. Regardless of their name, the Dept of Homeland Security has just graduated its first class of 231 Homeland Youth. Kids, aged 18-24 and recruited from the President’s AmeriCorp volunteers, they represent the first wave of DHS’s youth corps, designed specifically to create a full time, paid, standing army of FEMA Youth across the country.

Now connect the dots between that and this (which raised some eyebrows in this forum a couple of months ago):

One look at a chart of DHS ammunition purchases over the past decade reveals a drastic spike in orders of bullets recently, totaling in the billions of rounds. Other charts available online show a similar drastic spike in the purchases of accompanying weaponry by the Department of Homeland Security.

Yep... sounds like Hitler's Jugend to me. The sad thing is that none of these kids is old enough to realize exactly what they have become a part of, and jobs are hard to find. So, now they're on the government payroll. I have to wonder if they're paid with "30 pieces of silver"? :uhoh: Pax...

KRM59 · Oct 20, 2012

Those who do not learn from History are doomed to repete it. My Grandfather told Me Hitler's youth were told they were Only protecting thier Homeland Also. we all know how that worked out.

metalman383 · Oct 20, 2012

With drones being used on citizens, and numerous other programs like this, I have to wonder when people will wake up and realize what has happened to their freedom. Americans have been dumbed down to a point that I am not sure they can ever recover.

Gil223 · Oct 20, 2012

metalman383 said:
With drones being used on citizens, and numerous other programs like this, I have to wonder when people will wake up and realize what has happened to their freedom. Americans have been dumbed down to a point that I am not sure they can ever recover.

We have the left-wing controlled media to thank for both those situations. I have seen no (zip, zero, goose-egg, nada, none) reports in the "lamestream media" regarding either the internal use of spy drones, or complaining about the lack of reportage on the usurpation of our Constitution by the Socialist-"Progressive" movement. We must accept responsibility for OUR OWN "Homeland Youth Corps", educating our children and grandchildren (or anybody else that will listen) about the rights guaranteed by our Constitution, the practical application of those rights, and the methods used by those who would eliminate those rights. One cannot defend against tactics they do not recognize as such. Pax...

Citizen · Oct 22, 2012

JTHunter said:
Time to "duck and cover" people.

If you thought it's been nasty before this, wait and see!

Oh, I don't know. If you recall, the Brownshirts were pretty numerous. This bunch only got 250 together. Where they gonna put 'em? Spread 'em out over the whole US.

I'm not saying its not a really bad idea, or that it should be tolerated. I'm saying we shouldn't get alarmed about their effectiveness just, yet. There is still plenty of time to sink this program.

It occurs to me that this program comes along at a time when most of the WWII generation are already gone. Meaning, the grandmothers and grandfathers who could expose this to the grandkid candidates for the program are gone mostly gone. The eye-witnesses to that time period are getting thin on the ground.

skidmark · Oct 22, 2012

Citizen said:
Oh, I don't know. If you recall, the Brownshirts were pretty numerous. This bunch only got 250 together. Where they gonna put 'em? Spread 'em out over the whole US.

I'm not saying its not a really bad idea, or that it should be tolerated. I'm saying we shouldn't get alarmed about their effectiveness just, yet. There is still plenty of time to sink this program.

It occurs to me that this program comes along at a time when most of the WWII generation are already gone. Meaning, the grandmothers and grandfathers who could expose this to the grandkid candidates for the program are gone mostly gone. The eye-witnesses to that time period are getting thin on the ground.

First - the Brownshirts did not start out as thousands, or even hundreds, of members. But by the time it became obvious they needed to be sunk there were just too many of them and not enough of those wanting to sink them.

Second - fortunately the eyewitnesses have left us their testimonies and both written and film documentation. There will always be some who claim they lie, and some who claim it could never have been "that bad". But there are a few who do in fact read history and learn from it in an attempt not to repeat the mistakes of the past.

There are great similarities between 1927-1933 and the present. The same easy answers are available to solve the same complex questions. The difference is primarily the internet - it makes it harder to stifle the voices of dissent. (Look at China and even North Korea.) Are we about to find out if in fact the pen (the keyboard) is mightier than the sword? MOLON LAVE for both.

stay safe.

beebobby · Oct 22, 2012

I think that everyone who is frightened should find an attic to hide in. Don't make a sound. We will tell you when it's safe to come out. (Thanks Lewis Black).

metalman383 · Oct 22, 2012

beebobby said:
I think that everyone who is frightened should find an attic to hide in. Don't make a sound. We will tell you when it's safe to come out. (Thanks Lewis Black).

You are absolutely right, and welcome to the heard of Sheeple. Don't worry at all, the Government is only looking out four your best interest.

sudden valley gunner · Oct 22, 2012

They thought they were free

Milton Mayer's They thought they Were Free

"You see," my colleague went on, "one doesn’t see exactly where or how to move. Believe me, this is true. Each act, each occasion, is worse than the last, but only a little worse. You wait for the next and the next. You wait for one great shocking occasion, thinking that others, when such a shock comes, will join with you in resisting somehow. You don’t want to act, or even talk, alone; you don’t want to ‘go out of your way to make trouble.’ Why not?—Well, you are not in the habit of doing it. And it is not just fear, fear of standing alone, that restrains you; it is also genuine uncertainty.

"And you are an alarmist. You are saying that this must lead to this, and you can’t prove it. These are the beginnings, yes; but how do you know for sure when you don’t know the end, and how do you know, or even surmise, the end? On the one hand, your enemies, the law, the regime, the Party, intimidate you. On the other, your colleagues pooh-pooh you as pessimistic or even neurotic. You are left with your close friends, who are, naturally, people who have always thought as you have.

Free book if you have an e-reader and one I highly recommend. Written shortly after WWII, and trying to get to the basis of why good people would allow a wicked government.

I also recommend Ludwig Von Mises Omnipotent Government. Written before the end of of the war. Like Skidmark brought out the similiarities, to me are scary.

skidmark · Oct 22, 2012

sudden valley gunner said:
Milton Mayer's They thought they Were Free [ http://educate-yourself.org/cn/thoughttheywerefree20apr05.shtml ] ETA by skidmark

Free book if you have an e-reader and one I highly recommend. Written shortly after WWII, and trying to get to the basis of why good people would allow a wicked government.

I also recommend Ludwig Von Mises Omnipotent Government. [ http://www.hacer.org/pdf/Mises12.pdf ] - aaslo ETA by skidmark Written before the end of of the war. Like Skidmark brought out the similiarities, to me are scary.

This http://www.joehuffman.org/freedom/jewsintheattic.htm is how I test everything coming down the pike.

It's amazing how much "stuff" that's been proposed does not pass. OK, "amazing" is probably not the right word, but "frightening" is just too, well, frightening.

stay safe.

Gil223 · Oct 22, 2012

Citizen said:
Oh, I don't know. If you recall, the Brownshirts were pretty numerous. This bunch only got 250 together. Where they gonna put 'em? Spread 'em out over the whole US.

This is only the FIRST CLASS to graduate, and they are assigned in "teams of 8-12", which is 20+ teams. How many classes are in session? I have no idea, but look below at the number of locations (I assume for training, since that was my Google query) - all 50 states, plus 4 territories/possessions. Let's assume the training is no longer than Basic Military Training - which averages out to 9.2 weeks - that's 5.6 classes per training facility, per year - IF they only run one class at a time. Just for the sake of argument, let's say there are only THREE training locations in the USA (my guess is that there are probably 50), and that each class is maxed out at 250 "students"... or 4,200 graduates per year. However... if my guess is correct, then there would be 70,000 graduates annually, or 1,296 per state/territory/possession - or a small fraction less than 130 teams of 10. Lots of guess work here because there's very little statistical information available on the what, where, when, how often and how many, from https://my.americorps.gov/ :

SUMMARY
Program Type:
AmeriCorps NCCC

Program
AmeriCorps NCCC FEMA Corps - Winter 2013

Program Start/End Date
02/01/2013 - 12/31/2013

Work Schedule	Full Time

Education level
Less than high school completed

Age Requirement
Minimum: 18 Maximum: 24

Program Locations	ALASKA , ALABAMA , ARKANSAS , AMERICAN SAMOA , ARIZONA , CALIFORNIA , COLORADO , CONNECTICUT , DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA , DELAWARE , FLORIDA , GEORGIA , GUAM , HAWAII , IOWA , IDAHO , ILLINOIS , INDIANA , KANSAS , KENTUCKY , LOUISIANA , MASSACHUSETTS , MARYLAND , MAINE , MICHIGAN , MINNESOTA , MISSOURI , MISSISSIPPI , MONTANA , NORTH CAROLINA , NORTH DAKOTA , NEBRASKA , NEW HAMPSHIRE , NEW JERSEY , NEW MEXICO , NEVADA , NEW YORK , OHIO , OKLAHOMA , OREGON , PENNSYLVANIA , PUERTO RICO , RHODE ISLAND , SOUTH CAROLINA , SOUTH DAKOTA , TENNESSEE , TEXAS , UTAH , VIRGINIA , VIRGIN ISLANDS , VERMONT , WASHINGTON , WISCONSIN , WEST VIRGINIA , WYOMING

Only The Shadow knows! Pax...

Citizen · Oct 22, 2012

OK, you guys have convinced me. One standing army, not subject to posse comitatus, on the way.

Freedom First · Oct 22, 2012

Citizen said:
Oh, jeez. I had forgotten about them. So, the National Socialists went ahead with the program.

Sounds like we need a Liberty Youth Corps.

Individual local chapters can be called Committees of Correspondence.

The modern Committees are up and running as we speak.

Citizen said:
OK, you guys have convinced me. One standing army, not subject to posse comitatus, on the way.

Got militia? We do.

Anyways, you guys can help me with my little project: "Crimes against the Constitution" if you really see what is coming down the pipe. History doesn't exactly repeat itself but it sure tries...

sudden valley gunner · Oct 22, 2012

skidmark said:
This http://www.joehuffman.org/freedom/jewsintheattic.htm is how I test everything coming down the pike.

It's amazing how much "stuff" that's been proposed does not pass. OK, "amazing" is probably not the right word, but "frightening" is just too, well, frightening.

stay safe.

Thanks for the link! Simple yet very effective!

staying safe is getting harder to do........

Freedom First said:
The modern Committees are up and running as we speak.

Got militia? We do.

Anyways, you guys can help me with my little project: "Crimes against the Constitution" if you really see what is coming down the pipe. History doesn't exactly repeat itself but it sure tries...

This gentleman that used to sit at our table at our weekly OC meets, said one time " History don't repeat itself conduct does" although this was semantical it struck a chord with me. This was from someone who personally doesn't like guns but respected our position on it. So like you said although history doesn't exactly repeat itself it sure tries, because conduct is predictable, this will happen if this happens. It is why Austrian school of economics have successfully predicted every "depression" in the last century or so.

davidmcbeth · Oct 22, 2012

Many police have similar youth programs ... all hail federal and state governments !

Freedom1Man · Oct 24, 2012

So, when do we stand up against this?

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