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    brookfield wi mass shooting

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    It looks like it was actually at Azana Spa, across the street from Brookfield Square.

    But wait a minute....!!!!

    Azana is posted!! How did the guy have a gun when it's posted? Those signs prevent things like this from happening, don't they?
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    It's not in brookfield square - it's at a day spa across the street.
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    Quote Originally Posted by teej View Post
    it's not in brookfield square - it's at a day spa across the street.
    gfz?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    gfz?
    I was about to edit that post and say "No idea if Azana Spa was posted or not."
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    I saw over on another forum (ar15) that a woman apparently ran across the street into the mall saying the shooter was her father / stepfather. I have no other relevant info atm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teej View Post
    I was about to edit that post and say "No idea if Azana Spa was posted or not."

    It's posted. Or, at least it was. I personally saw the signs.

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    Locals just reported that it was in fact most likely a domestic situation - breakup/divorce....suspect has a restraining order against him. Came in looking for his wife, a hair stylist there.
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    GFZ and restraining orders are massive failures.
    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training. Archilochus, 650 BC

    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

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    Just heard that he slashed her tires there at work a week ago.

    What a piece of work.
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    Unhappy


    My first reaction on seeing the title of this thread was "not again?!"
    I'm sorry the people got hurt.
    Seriously, there are very few people I'd wish pain & suffering upon.

    I hope the people injured sue the spa for not providing a safe environment.
    After all, once they posted they lost immunity.
    Maybe the spa can get replacement signs, since the ones they bought were obviously defective.

    Or maybe people might consider getting their cephalos out of their caudals & realize that signs don't stop bad people!

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    More news coverage:
    http://www.cbs58.com/news/top-storie...175148661.html
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/ondead...oting/1647513/
    http://www.seattlepi.com/news/us/art...ng-3969163.php

    This seems to be the most complete & detailed so far:
    http://brookfield.fox6now.com/news/n...n-spa-shooting
    They say that even the hospital is locked down - nobody in or out w/o a police escort.
    the suspect is described as a black man who is 61″ tall, weighing 270 pounds. The man is reportedly bald with brown eyes. Police say he was seen driving a 2003 black Mazda
    When are people going to learn?
    Laws & signs don't stop bad people from doing bad things,
    they only make life easier for the bad people who plan to do bad things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    GFZ and restraining orders are massive failures.
    Both worked out real well here... /sarcasm
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    The latest from WTMJ on-air:
    His name is Radcliffe Haughton, male black, bald, 6'1", 270lb.
    And yes, he had an order of protection which prohibited him from having firearms. [Issued 18OCT12]
    http://wcca.wicourts.gov/
    Injunction issued effective to: OCTOBER 18, 2016.
    No Domestic Abuse / No Residence / No Contact.
    Respondent prohibited from possessing a firearm until the expiration date of this Injunction and further Court Order. Firearms to be delivered to Sheriff.
    Respondent given copy of Injunction in Court. Filed, Injunction (Domestic Abuse)
    If they catch him after this incident, I wonder if they'll re-start the 2 DC charges against him?

    ETA: picture available here
    http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local/175145691.html
    15:30 The BPD chief is talking on WTMJ on-air, & has just said that 3 people have died.
    16:19 They found his car, but he also has a blue & yellow motorcycle.
    16:30 TMJ4 is reporting that 2 sources have said that the shooter is dead in the spa.
    Last edited by MKEgal; 10-21-2012 at 05:31 PM.

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    More blood on the hands of anti-gunners.
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

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    Patch seems to be getting more information than the major news networks.

    http://brookfield-wi.patch.com/artic...okfield-square
    No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. Thomas Jefferson (1776)

    If you go into a store, with a gun, and rob it, you have forfeited your right to not get shot - Joe Deters, Hamilton County (Cincinnati) Prosecutor

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    Perp has apparently been found dead in the salon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by protias View Post
    Patch seems to be getting more information than the major news networks.

    http://brookfield-wi.patch.com/artic...okfield-square
    From that article: "One witness told WISN-TV that the shooter had a machine gun."

    SIGH. Big f*cking sigh. People are f*cking stupid.

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    Can anyone clue me in where the No Weapons is posted? I don't see it unless it's the writing underneath what looks to be the hours on the door.

    http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/at...1&d=1350856367
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    Quote Originally Posted by anmut
    Can anyone clue me in where the No Weapons is posted?
    I don't see it unless it's the writing underneath what looks to be the hours on the door.
    When was that taken? If it's on their website, it could very well be pre-cc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MKEgal View Post
    When was that taken? If it's on their website, it could very well be pre-cc.
    I got that photo from the Patch news site. It and the rest of them look like they were taken today.
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    No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. Thomas Jefferson (1776)

    If you go into a store, with a gun, and rob it, you have forfeited your right to not get shot - Joe Deters, Hamilton County (Cincinnati) Prosecutor

    I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few politicians. - George Mason (father of the Bill of Rights and The Virginia Declaration of Rights)

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    I saw that - however Mr. Farago just copies the news from other sources - I believe they have incorrect information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anmut View Post
    I got that photo from the Patch news site. It and the rest of them look like they were taken today.
    Putting on my photo analysis hat....

    Interesting. I _think_ that has to be taken from the back of the building. Haven't been there, but that's clearly not the side that faces Moorland (west side of building) ...and it doesn't look like the North (towards McDonalds) or South (towards the country club) facades either. Ergo, I'm thinking it has to be from the back of the building where I'm guessing the main entrance is.

    I doubt anyone would've been allowed on that (East) side of the building after the event started...

    If that was from the east side...and I'm increasingly sure it is...the shadows are too low-angle for this time of year. I'd expect that shot to have been taken much closer to christmas time when the sun is lower in the sky....and earlier in the morning than this event took place, judging from the shadow of the "peak" of the roof.

    Further evidence of that - there's snow on the building.

    I don't think that pic is from today.
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    He used a handgun, not an "assault" rifle.

    http://www.wisn.com/news/national/Po...z/-/index.html
    No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. Thomas Jefferson (1776)

    If you go into a store, with a gun, and rob it, you have forfeited your right to not get shot - Joe Deters, Hamilton County (Cincinnati) Prosecutor

    I ask sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few politicians. - George Mason (father of the Bill of Rights and The Virginia Declaration of Rights)

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