DrMark
Lone Star Veteran
I'm certainly in that boat from time to time. I think most of us probably are.
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Natural bridge is anti gun?
- Thread starter Bowesmobile
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I'm certainly in that boat from time to time. I think most of us probably are.
Bowesmobile
Regular Member
Eh everybody learns something new occasionally. If we didn't learn, we'd be just plain dumb.
Next time perhaps start a post here and ask folks about their experiences with OC at Natural Bridge. Natural Bridge is only about 45 minutes up the road from where I live, so if nothing else I could've OCed up there myself to see if there were any issues. I haven't been there myself, so it would've been a good chance for me to see the sight.
LOL, yeah, that would seem like the better part of things. If you want to see it. Come up on Saturday. Me and my family will be there. Then we can both find out together.
Peter,
Some dont understand that there's more at stake than carrying when you have a family. You seem to get that. Thanks for your input. Its definitely a nice balance.
jmelvin
Founder's Club Member
Give me an idea of time and I'll check with the wifester on joining y'all. We've got a church shindig in the afternoon, so I'm not certain we could make it.
Bowesmobile
Regular Member
Knowing my family we'll be there sometime around 9-10 am and be leaving at 4-5pm ish, and those are exact times! It'd be nice to meet a few people from out that way. Were staying at the Wildwood campground Friday to Sunday. PM me for details.
It'd be nice to meet a few people from out that way. Were staying at the Wildwood campground Friday to Sunday. PM me for details.
Marco
Regular Member
The larger text above is mine
Don't think I'm (we're) telling you to break the law if you don't have a permit, as I (we) would never do that.
I find either the folks in charge don't notice, don't care or agree as nothing has been said to make me think otherwise.
hunter45
Regular Member
What's the story behind this? I've noticed that there are a ton of people named Shiflett from the Harrisonburg area. I think the police chief at JMU was Lee Shiflett.
........the article was derogatory, stating “Researchers have found Shiflet's Hollow was probably a community of rough mountain people with little education.” The article told of intermarriages and alcoholic violence from the Greene County area of the Blue Ridge Mountains, and speculated as to whether the Shiflet name is French, German or take your pick. The article went on to state that because of the unusually high concentration of Shiflets in the Charlottesville, Virginia area (approximately 450 in the phone book), the family has been the subject of much teasing and negative rumors.
http://www.klein-shiflett.com/shifletfamily/HHI/surname.html
Sorry Hunter but you should know by now that at least half of my jokes are understood by a handful of people and can't be repeated in polite company. I grew up in the area BTW.:lol:
jmelvin
Founder's Club Member
Knowing my family we'll be there sometime around 9-10 am and be leaving at 4-5pm ish, and those are exact times!
Well I don't think I'll be seeing you since we now have a busy day Saturday, but I hope you and the family enjoy the trip!
nuc65
Activist Member
Natural Bridge might not be too far...
I am OCing in Lynchburg but with the storm approaching
http://www.newsleader.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/201210262102/NEWS01/310260017
I wish I were closer to this college OCing of course. This is a daughter of a friend of mine.
I am OCing in Lynchburg but with the storm approaching
http://www.newsleader.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/201210262102/NEWS01/310260017
I wish I were closer to this college OCing of course. This is a daughter of a friend of mine.
Four days and no word, further information, on your friend's daughter?
nuc65
Activist Member
The only further word has been that she called to police dispatch and said she was ok. She refused to tell where she was, her father confirmed her voice. The police are still looking for her to verify she is ok, and are still unable to physically locate her.
jmelvin
Founder's Club Member
Thanks for the update nuc!
Welcome to the site VT!
I was the one that made the TT Shiflett Joke which was directed at another FORMER member here and is a running joke in the mountain community and has been for 50 or so years at least. I don't plan to apologize or debate it.
I don't think anyone "Called your Mother out". A portion of a blunt and somewhat snippy email was reprinted:
Bowes may remove it so I left it out of the quote.
Everyone has a different view, even and especially here. To me, no guns = antigun. Its either black or white. There is no middle ground, but others will feel differently.
As private property you have a perfect right to not allow guns. I have a perfect right to not like it.
I was the one that made the TT Shiflett Joke which was directed at another FORMER member here and is a running joke in the mountain community and has been for 50 or so years at least. I don't plan to apologize or debate it.
I don't think anyone "Called your Mother out". A portion of a blunt and somewhat snippy email was reprinted:
Bowes may remove it so I left it out of the quote.
Everyone has a different view, even and especially here. To me, no guns = antigun. Its either black or white. There is no middle ground, but others will feel differently.
As private property you have a perfect right to not allow guns. I have a perfect right to not like it.
vthokie -
Welcome to OCDO, even if you seem you are only here to protect your mother's honor.
Please understand that that the term "anti-gun" does not necessarily mean being against the concept of the right to keep and bear arms. It is a shorthand for designating places that do not welcome the carry of handguns and, as you might imagine, is applied to private enterprise as opposed to government entities. As folks who are philosophically inclined to go about armed, it is important to know those places that are not going to welcome us (as in tolerate, although there are some that do throw out the welcome mat and activelty seek our patronage.
Being personally pro-gun - as in "I own several, I have a CHP, I am a member of the NRA, etc. - is not being pro-gun rights. It's fuddism. ( http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fudd in case you are not familiar with the term)
If you believe that information that was posted is inaccurate or misleading you should communicate that via PM (private message) to the OP (original poster of that information) seeking to have them edit it to reflect accuracy or to remove anything misleading. If that route does not achieve your desired result you may contact a moderator or administrator for assistance in resolving the matter. (I am neither, BTW)
If, on the other hand, you are just upset at how information that is factual was presented, you need to get over that. Truth needs no additional support.
As for the "Shiflet/Shiflett" matter - it has been clearly identified as a private joke between some but not all of the posters on this thread. If you are upset with the poster who used that private joke in reference to the policy of Natural Bridge, please communicate directly with him. I do warn you that he does not tolerate Fudds well, which may explain why he posted what he did - but you will need to confirm that with him.
Now that all of that has been dealt with - do you have any intention of sticking around and participating in any part of the Open Carry Movement?
stay safe.
Welcome to OCDO, even if you seem you are only here to protect your mother's honor.
Please understand that that the term "anti-gun" does not necessarily mean being against the concept of the right to keep and bear arms. It is a shorthand for designating places that do not welcome the carry of handguns and, as you might imagine, is applied to private enterprise as opposed to government entities. As folks who are philosophically inclined to go about armed, it is important to know those places that are not going to welcome us (as in tolerate, although there are some that do throw out the welcome mat and activelty seek our patronage.
Being personally pro-gun - as in "I own several, I have a CHP, I am a member of the NRA, etc. - is not being pro-gun rights. It's fuddism. ( http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fudd in case you are not familiar with the term)
If you believe that information that was posted is inaccurate or misleading you should communicate that via PM (private message) to the OP (original poster of that information) seeking to have them edit it to reflect accuracy or to remove anything misleading. If that route does not achieve your desired result you may contact a moderator or administrator for assistance in resolving the matter. (I am neither, BTW)
If, on the other hand, you are just upset at how information that is factual was presented, you need to get over that. Truth needs no additional support.
As for the "Shiflet/Shiflett" matter - it has been clearly identified as a private joke between some but not all of the posters on this thread. If you are upset with the poster who used that private joke in reference to the policy of Natural Bridge, please communicate directly with him. I do warn you that he does not tolerate Fudds well, which may explain why he posted what he did - but you will need to confirm that with him.
Now that all of that has been dealt with - do you have any intention of sticking around and participating in any part of the Open Carry Movement?
stay safe.
While you and/or your mother may not like it, she is the point of contact for discussion of the incident reported - until and unless someone higher up in the Natural Bridge organization steps forward and assume that responsibility. She was the one who spoke with/to Bose. Anybody that wanted to follow up would need to know who to follow up with.
How can I say this nicely? Being butthurt will not fly around here. If you have a legitimate complaint about accuracy then deal with that. I have sugested how you might go about doing that.
stay safe.
Just to follow up on Skid's post, Bowesmobile is one of the more considerate people here. I expect that if you PM him, he will be more than happy to remove your mothers information....Again, just my opinion.
People's "Mothers" are rarely the target of antigun labels. It is the establishment.
People's "Mothers" are rarely the target of antigun labels. It is the establishment.
Wolf_shadow
Activist Member
Welcome to the forum!
Again welcome to the forum. Have had a wonderful Thanksgiving.
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Anti-gun refers to not endorsing or allowing the carry of personal defense tools, also referred to as "unfriendly." There is nothing personal in that - it is a statement of fact.
As others have said the "Shifflet" thing is much as the same as calling someone a redneck - a lot depends on the intent and attitude displayed. I see no foul.
It is apparent that vthokie as taken umbrage. That is unfortunate but does not excuse personal insults posted by him. While I had considered opening his closed remarks in the spirit of fairness to others, I see no benefit at this time.
Suggest that we leave this aspect/part of this thread at rest. I will do likewise unless it gets out of hand.
Anti-gun refers to not endorsing or allowing the carry of personal defense tools, also referred to as "unfriendly." There is nothing personal in that - it is a statement of fact.
As others have said the "Shifflet" thing is much as the same as calling someone a redneck - a lot depends on the intent and attitude displayed. I see no foul.
It is apparent that vthokie as taken umbrage. That is unfortunate but does not excuse personal insults posted by him. While I had considered opening his closed remarks in the spirit of fairness to others, I see no benefit at this time.
Suggest that we leave this aspect/part of this thread at rest. I will do likewise unless it gets out of hand.