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Thread: OCer robbed of sidearm in Centreville in 2006?

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    OCer robbed of sidearm in Centreville in 2006?

    Is this legit? Someone sent me the link, and it seems so. Or is this one of those one or two known cases?

    OCer snuck up on and robbed of gun in 2006 in Fairfax County: http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/...wtonPatton.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAC702 View Post
    Is this legit? Someone sent me the link, and it seems so. Or is this one of those one or two known cases?

    OCer snuck up on and robbed of gun in 2006 in Fairfax County: http://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/police/...wtonPatton.htm

    Since this incident first came up it has been discussed at length on OCDO, unfortunately some of the older threads have been lost(?).
    Being that I lived around the corner from where this incident supposedly happened myself and another OC'er (he lived about 3/4 mile away) took it upon ourselves to find out if it was true.

    What we discovered was that the incident was not as claimed but a ruse.
    The gun was not stolen and the alleged victim filed a false report.

    We came by this by contacting the Fairfax County PD Sully District, as that is who investigated the claim.
    Sorry, I can't remember who I spoke with, it's been a few years.
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    Thank you!

    I tried the search, but it doesn't matter what I enter, I just get "no results." I've never dealt with a worse search than the one on this website.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MAC702 View Post
    Thank you!

    I tried the search, but it doesn't matter what I enter, I just get "no results." I've never dealt with a worse search than the one on this website.
    I remember that forum user Bodhi mentioned the false report angle a number of times. You could try checking through his posts; it shouldn't take long--he hasn't been all that active for a long time.

    Although, I do have to say that Marco's report in this thread is the most comprehensive I've seen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen View Post

    Although, I do have to say that Marco's report in this thread is the most comprehensive I've seen.
    It has been a while but I think Marco did most of the leg work on it. His account pretty much says it all.

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    This may be the original thread:

    http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/sh...So-much-for-SA

    For future reference, yes, the search function on this site pines for "useless."

    Use the Google site search function:

    site:forum.opencarry.org SearchTerm1 SearchTerm2 SearchTerm3

    This doesn't let you distinguish among the sub-forums, but sometimes if you add Virginia as one of the terms, that helps.

    For this example, I used this in the Google search box:

    "site:forum.opencarry.org newton drive centreville"

    And the link to the thread above was the first result.

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    Thanks again!
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    "Advanced search" will get you there, but still with more frustration and time wasted than general internet search engines and some basic search terms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    "Advanced search" will get you there,....
    Yeah, that's the one I was using. I could have kept trying, but I realized at that point, with as active as the Virgina forum is, it would just be quicker to ask!
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    I don't believe the above thread is the original as it almost 3 yrs after the incident occured.
    The OP's incident is how I found OCDO as someone at my wife's job told her that my OC'ing was dangerous and someone near us had just got their firearm stolen. So in my search I found that incident and OCDO. Bodhi and I independently researched and got the same answers.

    IIRC, the investigators found the firearm in a drawer at the guys house.


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    Last edited by Marco; 10-25-2012 at 12:09 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Since this incident first came up it has been discussed at length on OCDO, unfortunately some of the older threads have been lost(?).
    Being that I lived around the corner from where this incident supposedly happened myself and another OC'er (he lived about 3/4 mile away) took it upon ourselves to find out if it was true.

    What we discovered was that the incident was not as claimed but a ruse.
    The gun was not stolen and the alleged victim filed a false report.

    We came by this by contacting the Fairfax County PD Sully District, as that is who investigated the claim.
    Sorry, I can't remember who I spoke with, it's been a few years.
    That is the way I too remember the final outcome - a fraud, a fake, a ruse.
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