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    Question Would I be in trouble.

    After seeing a lot of talk about transferring firearms on other websites. I was wondering if I moved to say PA, LA, or MT. Would I have to go through an FFL in the state I am moving to have the firearms "transferred" to me or can I load up the house stuff and move in with out any problems. Making this assumption
    1 I am legally allowed to have firearms
    2. None of the firearms are illegal in the state I am moving to?
    Just curious I like it here.

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    Well,,,

    Nope...
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    You don't have to transfer guns to yourself just because you moved to another state any more than you have to transfer them to yourself when you take them with you while on vacation.

    In a few states you may have to register them, but that is not the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pkbites View Post
    You don't have to transfer guns to yourself just because you moved to another state any more than you have to transfer them to yourself when you take them with you while on vacation.

    In a few states you may have to register them, but that is not the same thing.
    Some states do not allow a person who moves to bring their guns with them ... I don't know if this state is like this or not. Its wise to fully investigate via examination of the new state's statues and case law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    Some states do not allow a person who moves to bring their guns with them ... I don't know if this state is like this or not. Its wise to fully investigate via examination of the new state's statues and case law.
    Cite?

    Keep in mind I'm not talking about states where specific guns are illegal (like "assault weapns",) and I already mentioned states that have registration. But if it's legal to own if purchased there, what state prohibits bringing it there when you bought it while living elsewhere?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pkbites View Post
    Cite?

    Keep in mind I'm not talking about states where specific guns are illegal (like "assault weapns",) and I already mentioned states that have registration. But if it's legal to own if purchased there, what state prohibits bringing it there when you bought it while living elsewhere?
    I realize this one falls under a "registration" state. But, since you want an example, New York. New York requires registration and will allow only NY residents to register firearms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nascar24Glock View Post
    I realize this one falls under a "registration" state. But, since you want an example, New York. New York requires registration and will allow only NY residents to register firearms.
    "I was wondering if I moved to say PA, LA, or MT." was the real OP question.

    So he might have to register his guns in NY State, but NY would be fine with it, because he moved to the State.
    You can bring your guns to any state (when you move) that alows ownership of said gun.
    You might run into an issue with Cali, as you may need to install a "bullet button", and said State does full-out ban some makes of guns, but if the State allows ownership of a given gun, you can bring it when you move. Eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronS View Post
    "I was wondering if I moved to say PA, LA, or MT." was the real OP question.

    So he might have to register his guns in NY State, but NY would be fine with it, because he moved to the State.
    You can bring your guns to any state (when you move) that alows ownership of said gun.
    You might run into an issue with Cali, as you may need to install a "bullet button", and said State does full-out ban some makes of guns, but if the State allows ownership of a given gun, you can bring it when you move. Eh?
    Actually, New York might not be fine with it.

    I'm not 100% sure on how the process works. But, I do know that, unless a person falls under the transporting exception of the Firearm Owners Procetion Act, it is completely illegal to possess an unregistered pistol in New York, even in your own home. And, like I said before, you have to be a resident to register it. So, at the bare minimum, someone that owns pistols and moves to New York would have to do the following: (1) leave the handguns outside the state, perhaps with a friend or relative, (2) establish residency (I'm not sure on the minimum time period), (3) go through the long and drawn out process of registering the pistol, and (4) finally get to move the pistol into New York, perhaps as much as 6 months later or more. And I'm just assuming you're allowed to move into NY and register already-owned pistols. If you can't, then you would also have to sell them to someone, then go through the process later of buying them back through an FFL.

    And yes, New York's gun laws are screwed up beyond all recognition. Don't expect this hassle in most states.
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    PA, LA and MT are not a problem...They all allow unlicensed OC and you can have anything you want...including those things that need federal tax stamps because of the NFA34. All good states for the firearm owner.

    Now, NY???that is a totally different story. IF your AR/AK or other "banned" evil looking rifle and high capacity magizines were obtained by you prior to the 1994, they are ok...after, not ok. in general, Clinton's AWB did not expire in NY state, becasue they have their own copy.

    Other than the "banned" weapons most long guns are ok as "firearms" as defined in PL 265 and PL 400.00 are basically only pistols...NOW, this is for NYS ONLY, NYC has a totally different set of rules which includes licenses for long guns.

    You may NOT possess a pistol in NYS or NYC without a license, and that particular pistol is on the license...that means, you cannot even shoot your buddy's pistol, unless the MN/SN of that pistol is on YOUR permit. A premisis permit is fairly easy and inexpensive, but you normally have to reside in NY for 6 months to apply, and it will take another 6 months for the permit to be issued....this is a license to possess that pistol IN YOUR DWELLING ONLY. In NYC it takes longer and cost almost $400 PER WEAPON every 3 years.

    If you actually want to take your pistols out to shoot them....well that is an even different story...good forum...www.nyfirearms.com/forums

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    Sorry for getting this more off-topic...
    Quote Originally Posted by hermannr
    A premises permit is fairly easy and inexpensive, but you normally have to reside in NY for 6 months to apply, and it will take another 6 months for the permit to be issued... this is a license to possess that pistol IN YOUR DWELLING ONLY. In NYC it takes longer and cost almost $400 PER WEAPON every 3 years.
    How is this even remotely legal?
    Even SCOTUS has said that the most basic core of the 2A is possession in the home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MKEgal View Post
    Sorry for getting this more off-topic...

    How is this even remotely legal?
    Even SCOTUS has said that the most basic core of the 2A is possession in the home.
    Isn't Micheal Bloomberg Mayor of NYC.... you know the guy who sends his "investigators" all over the country to see if someone in Georgia is violating NYC's laws while Bloomberg investigators are violating federal laws while "gathering their evidence"?

    But, NYC hasn't lost that particular lawsuit yet...

    BTW, when are you moving to NYC? LOL
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