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    November Meet KC Side! 11/10/12

    Remember remember...ok I wont.

    But the 10th of Nov. should be our next meet. It has also been suggested to me that we have this meet in Overland Park, Kansas on account of them lifting the ban on OC. I think this is a wunderbar idea!

    Now we just need a place to eat. Overland Park is full of good restaurants but we need to make sure they are 2A friendly. Also this plan may change as there seems to be some political and social backlash regarding the new OC freedom. (see link: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/10/23...r-details.html)

    Either way, while or if we can we ought to.

    So, Répondez s'il vous plaît (u. A. w. g) below.
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    I'm a negative, Ghostrider. I don't like missing these at all, but I'll gladly miss it for opening day of deer season.

    Also, in light of that negativity, that meeting might be a good time to get the media involved, as someone suggested last time. Show the public their worries are baseless.
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    Getting the media involved? Are you sure that's such a good idea? The media have constantly proven they are "left wing" and totally against guns and gun ownership. How are you so sure they won't turn it into something that could make gun owners look bad again? When it comes to "open carry," I've never trusted the media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SixGunCowboy View Post
    Getting the media involved? Are you sure that's such a good idea? The media have constantly proven they are "left wing" and totally against guns and gun ownership. How are you so sure they won't turn it into something that could make gun owners look bad again? When it comes to "open carry," I've never trusted the media.
    Call Fox. Or way better yet, see if John Stossel will do a special. I'd probably skip deer huntin' if that happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HighFlyingA380 View Post
    I'm a negative, Ghostrider. I don't like missing these at all, but I'll gladly miss it for opening day of deer season.

    Also, in light of that negativity, that meeting might be a good time to get the media involved, as someone suggested last time. Show the public their worries are baseless.

    That is probably not a bad idea. We had the media come out to a meet on the plaza once and the story went pretty well. Anyone can youtube it if they are interested. Anyway if they haven't banned it by then we might just try to do that.
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    The reporter also said Open Carry was legal with a permit. And the lady he interviewed said Gun's were scary...

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    I'm in.

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    OP's city council is not meeting until the 14th!!!! Wyandotte BBQ if everybody is up for bbq again...there's not really any buffets in OP unless you want Chinese.......I think media could be a good thing right before a city council meeting about restricting OC!!!!!!!!!!

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    Re: November Meet KC Side! 11/10/12

    Negative for me as well, deer season takes priority this time of year. Both school and work take a back seat for a few days while I reconnect with nature. Hope to see you all next time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HighFlyingA380 View Post
    I'm a negative, Ghostrider. I don't like missing these at all, but I'll gladly miss it for opening day of deer season.
    Youre going to kill BAMBI........................ how barbaric, cruel, inhumane, and all that stuff....:P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richieg150 View Post
    Youre going to kill BAMBI........................ how barbaric, cruel, inhumane, and all that stuff....:P
    Naw. I'm gonna kill Bambis' mom and dad.
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    Sorry guys, I am gonna have to take a rain check on the meet. I have to work on that day and will be unavailable. Sorry about that.

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    Looks like another meet that I won't be able to attend. My youngest boy's first year hunting. Maybe I will finally meet some of you guys next month.

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    We are going to have to pass since its in Ks. Because as I do not have a CCW and not a fan of trying to get it loaded and in a holster out side of my car. If any one is doing some kind of meet for us that do not have a permit I will galdly show up on missouri side. Hope the meet goes well on the Kansas side this month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justin0629 View Post
    We are going to have to pass since its in Ks. Because as I do not have a CCW and not a fan of trying to get it loaded and in a holster out side of my car. If any one is doing some kind of meet for us that do not have a permit I will galdly show up on missouri side. Hope the meet goes well on the Kansas side this month.
    Justin, you don't need a permit to open carry in Overland Park or on the Missouri side. You only need a CCW permit if you're going to conceal carry.

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    For those who do not deer hunt.... It's like the Jeep thing, you just don't understand, sorry.

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    My understanding is that in Mo. You carry how you wish in your car but once you get out of the car then it dependes on the cty your in. But Ks is that you need a CCW to carry a loaded firarm in your car within reach and then out side of the car it depends on the city you are in. How do you go about getting a unloaded gun loaded and in a holster out side of your car with out breaking some sort of law or being way in the gray area of the law?

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    Quote Originally Posted by justin0629 View Post
    My understanding is that in Mo. You carry how you wish in your car but once you get out of the car then it dependes on the cty your in. But Ks is that you need a CCW to carry a loaded firarm in your car within reach and then out side of the car it depends on the city you are in. How do you go about getting a unloaded gun loaded and in a holster out side of your car with out breaking some sort of law or being way in the gray area of the law?
    You're right about one thing. In certain cities, you cannot carry a loaded firearm on your person. Those cities are:
    Leawood
    Prairie Village
    Kansas City, Kansas (or anywhere within Wyandotte County)
    Mission Hills
    Gardner-Edgerton ("brandishing a firearm in public view)
    Lenexa

    In cities that allow open carry, you are able to carry a loaded firearm on your person both in and outside of your vehicle so long as you keep your gun holstered at all times and the safety on your weapon engaged. In that respect, it would be advisable that you load and holster your weapon BEFORE you leave your place of residence. The laws for open carry recently changed so that citizens now have the rights to open carry a loaded firearm for their personal protection if they so choose. Accepting for the cities mentioned above, everywhere else is usually considered legal. Unless you're going to carry concealed, you don't need a CCW permit.
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    Re: November Meet KC Side! 11/10/12

    I believe you see right about car carry, loaded and within reach requires a CCW, I have mine, so I didn't read the exact rules carefully once I knew I was legal. Double check...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcgunfan View Post
    I believe you see right about car carry, loaded and within reach requires a CCW, I have mine, so I didn't read the exact rules carefully once I knew I was legal. Double check...

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    I am afraid KCGUNFAN has it wrong. We are talking "open carry" and this isn't Missouri we're talking about, it's Kansas. You DO NOT require a CCW permit to "open carrying your vehicle or in public. Justin, do not listen to KCGUNFAN. He has no idea what he is talking about.

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    Here we go again. I know perfectly well what we're talking about and where. From the KS AG's FAQ here:

    http://ag.ks.gov/docs/documents/conc...carry-faqs.pdf

    · Can I, as a Licensee, remove my loaded handgun from its concealed position if I
    am traveling in my vehicle and not be subject to criminal violations?
    o Answer: Yes. Again, the changes to the transportation law allow a Licensee
    to remove the handgun from a concealed position while they are traveling
    in their vehicle even if the Licensee is in a jurisdiction where “open carry” has
    been prohibited.
    How can I legally transport a firearm in my vehicle anywhere in Kansas?
    o Answer: K.S.A. 12-16,124(d) provides that “no person shall be prosecuted
    under any ordinance, resolution or regulation for transporting a firearm in any
    air, land or water vehicle if the firearm is unloaded and encased in a container
    which completely encloses the firearm.” Again, concealed carry licensees are
    not subject to local ordinances or resolutions regarding the manner of
    transporting a loaded firearm.
    Notice that both of these explicitly say that you must be a licensee to openly carry a firearm in a car, and to carry it armed or outside of a container that completely encases it.

    It may be OK to do this in certain counties or cities, I didn't bother to investigate further since I do have a CCW endorsement.

    My earlier advice still applies, stop getting your legal advice from cereal boxes.

    Quote Originally Posted by SixGunCowboy View Post
    I am afraid KCGUNFAN has it wrong. We are talking "open carry" and this isn't Missouri we're talking about, it's Kansas. You DO NOT require a CCW permit to "open carrying your vehicle or in public. Justin, do not listen to KCGUNFAN. He has no idea what he is talking about.

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    Re: K.S.A. 16-124

    Again, you are in error. I am talking about "open carry," and NOT CONCEALED CARRY. I give you this:


    21-6302. Criminal carrying of a weapon (a) Criminal carrying of a weapon is knowingly carrying:
    (4) any pistol, revolver or other firearm concealed on one's person except when on the person's land or in the person's abode or fixed place of business

    (In NO WAY does any of this apply to "open carry" of a firearm either in a vehicle or in the open)
    "Open carry" of a firearm in a vehicle on one's person in a car IS NOT considered CONCEALED. It IS legal to do so, with exception of areas that do not allow "open carry" due to existing ordinances.

    This is from the Kansas State Legislature. Kansas State Law allows for "open carry" of a firearm where not restricted by city ordinances. And you DO NOT require a permit to "open carry."
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    Naw. I'm gonna kill Bamis' mom and dad.
    I just checked to see if I still has my P.E.T.A. card...........People Eating Tastey Animals.....yep I still have it....good hunting.
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    Its regular deer season. I predict a 0 turnout!
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    Well it appears opening weekend of deer season has stopped this meet. How about the following Saturday? The 17th? I'm still down for overland park. I understand the need to kill deer though. Lets make a NOV meet happen before Thanksgiving.
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