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CADL reversal and open carry in schools

PDinDetroit

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Before anyone does anything, I think it's best we let the case "settle in".

If you want to know why or how long, PM me.

I have personally OC'ed at Royal Oak High School to Vote Four (4) Times with No Issue Whatsoever even before the MI CofA Opinion/Decision was finalized. The following are my resources to back this up:

Here are some resources that one can print up and use in the event someone gives you cause for concern:

1. You are termed an "elector" per the Constitution of Michigan of 1963 in Article II Section 1. Link: http://legislature.mi.gov/doc.aspx?mcl-Article-II-1

2. CPL Holders can Open Carry in MI CPL Pistol Free Zones per Michigan State Police Legal Update #86. Link: http://www.michigan.gov/documents/msp/MSP_Legal_Update_No._86_2_336854_7.pdf

3. Every elector is privileged from arrest while going to, attending, and returning from elections in all cases except for treason, felony, or breach of the peace. Link: http://legislature.mi.gov/doc.aspx?mcl-600-1825

4. Michigan Attorney General Opinion #7101: Holstered Handgun Openly Carried is not brandishing. Link: http://www.ag.state.mi.us/opinion/datafiles/2000s/op10176.htm

5. Michigan Attorney General Opinion #7113: Holstered Handgun Openly Carried can be carried in Gun Free Zones. Link: http://www.ag.state.mi.us/opinion/datafiles/2000s/op10188.htm

6. Local Unit of Government cannot Regulate Firearms. Link: http://legislature.mi.gov/doc.aspx?mcl-123-1102

7. A person shall not attempt, by means of bribery, menace, or other corrupt means or device, either directly or indirectly, to influence an elector in giving his or her vote, or to deter the elector from, or interrupt the elector in giving his or her vote at any election held in this state. THIS IS A FELONY. Link: http://legislature.mi.gov/doc.aspx?mcl-168-932

IANAL YMMV
 

JB248

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Metro Detroit
Still haven't decided 100% if I'm going to OC tomorrow with CPL while I vote at Farmington HS.

Guess, I should just print off all the lists (as I know them pretty well) but to show them to anyone giving me a hard time.
 

TheQ

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Lansing, Michigan
I have personally OC'ed at Royal Oak High School to Vote Four (4) Times with No Issue Whatsoever even before the MI CofA Opinion/Decision was finalized. The following are my resources to back this up:

Here are some resources that one can print up and use in the event someone gives you cause for concern:

1. You are termed an "elector" per the Constitution of Michigan of 1963 in Article II Section 1. Link: http://legislature.mi.gov/doc.aspx?mcl-Article-II-1

2. CPL Holders can Open Carry in MI CPL Pistol Free Zones per Michigan State Police Legal Update #86. Link: http://www.michigan.gov/documents/msp/MSP_Legal_Update_No._86_2_336854_7.pdf

3. Every elector is privileged from arrest while going to, attending, and returning from elections in all cases except for treason, felony, or breach of the peace. Link: http://legislature.mi.gov/doc.aspx?mcl-600-1825

4. Michigan Attorney General Opinion #7101: Holstered Handgun Openly Carried is not brandishing. Link: http://www.ag.state.mi.us/opinion/datafiles/2000s/op10176.htm

5. Michigan Attorney General Opinion #7113: Holstered Handgun Openly Carried can be carried in Gun Free Zones. Link: http://www.ag.state.mi.us/opinion/datafiles/2000s/op10188.htm

6. Local Unit of Government cannot Regulate Firearms. Link: http://legislature.mi.gov/doc.aspx?mcl-123-1102

7. A person shall not attempt, by means of bribery, menace, or other corrupt means or device, either directly or indirectly, to influence an elector in giving his or her vote, or to deter the elector from, or interrupt the elector in giving his or her vote at any election held in this state. THIS IS A FELONY. Link: http://legislature.mi.gov/doc.aspx?mcl-168-932

IANAL YMMV

They know where you live and who you are (voter registration). They can come by and arrest you and/or ticket you at home later.

Food for thought. As always with OC and in life, don't pick legal battles you can't afford to fight. Knowing you, Paul, I know you can afford the fights. Others should keep in mind the cost of the fight when making their decisions.
 

JB248

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Metro Detroit
They know where you live and who you are (voter registration). They can come by and arrest you and/or ticket you at home later.

Food for thought. As always with OC and in life, don't pick legal battles you can't afford to fight. Knowing you, Paul, I know you can afford the fights. Others should keep in mind the cost of the fight when making their decisions.

That is what is runs through my mind :confused:

Gotta love law...
 

TheQ

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Far be it for me to dissuade ppl from OC. I'm just reminding ppl to consider the potential consequences (mostly legal fees) when deciding their personal course of action.
 

Shadow Bear

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Grand Rapids
Far be it for me to dissuade ppl from OC. I'm just reminding ppl to consider the potential consequences (mostly legal fees) when deciding their personal course of action.

This is true- justice is only for those who can afford it.
 

WilDChilD

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Location
Dewitt, Michigan, USA
This is true- justice is only for those who can afford it.

Nice, but if they charge someone who doesnt have the funds to defend themselves they will take a plea and then justice is only for those who can afford it.

Dont be mad at Q for his statements be made at the .gov for making it that way.
 

Shadow Bear

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Nice, but if they charge someone who doesnt have the funds to defend themselves they will take a plea and then justice is only for those who can afford it.

Dont be mad at Q for his statements be made at the .gov for making it that way.

I wasn't picking on Q:uhoh:; just making the statement you just echoed- people without money can't get the full benefit of justice.
 
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