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    Radford’s self-defense ban goes into effect even as VCU sees huge increase in crime

    Last week’s Virginia Register contained the final publication of Radford University’s campus weapons ban. This may seem rather sudden to those familiar with the rather long and complex ‘notice and comment’ process by which most regulations are promulgated in Virginia. After all, the regulation was only first voted on by the Radford University Board of Visitors on Friday September 14th.

    However, thanks to the ill-advised fast-track regulatory power granted to state-operated colleges and universities by § 2.2-4002(A)(6), the regulation becomes effective immediately upon publication without any public notice or comment period as would normally be the case with regulatory rulemaking.

    It is with great sadness that I noted the final regulation bans not only firearms but also ...


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    I've got nothing to say other than it makes me sick to see college after college in this state, implement bans to make sure that students, staff and visitors are thoroughly punished for daring to carry tools to protect themselves. What the hell goes through the mind of supposed academics to make them think that these laws will stop criminal attacks, when they don't work anywhere else? I tend to wonder if they're content to see young women raped, young men attacked, and their staff members victimized as they go through their days.

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    The addition of other self-defense tools in the definition of "weapon" is what bothered me the most. Even non-lethal self-defense is denied to these students.

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    Radford’s self-defense ban goes into effect even as VCU sees huge increase in crime

    It blows my mind that supposedly educated individuals delude themselve into thinking they can create "safe zones" by putting words on paper. The Washington D.C. (Or Chicago) gun ban is long standing proof that gun bans are both ineffective and dangerous...the evidence is out there if these idiots would only open their eyes...
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigsd View Post
    It blows my mind that supposedly educated individuals delude themselve into thinking they can create "safe zones" by putting words on paper. The Washington D.C. (Or Chicago) gun ban is long standing proof that gun bans are both ineffective and dangerous...the evidence is out there if these idiots would only open their eyes...
    True, 100% true.

    "Educated" in a particular discipline does not confer upon any individual(s) a superior, omnipotent intellect in other fields, particularly how to provide for another's safety.

    Would you select an engineer to perform brain surgery? Both of those require tools and the knowledge of how and when to use them. There is no logic, no semblance of reason, in allowing those entrusted with the education of others to throw them under the bus - to deprive them of the ability to defend that which is most precious to them = their very lives!

    I call it the "Ivory Tower Syndrome" = if I don't see it, it doesn't exist, beside which I am smarter than you. You want to pass and graduate or continue working here? Then you will do it my way. To hell with facts and truth. Now get out of my office!
    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training.” Archilochus, 650 BC

    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    True, 100% true.

    "Educated" in a particular discipline does not confer upon any individual(s) a superior, omnipotent intellect in other fields, particularly how to provide for another's safety.

    Would you select an engineer to perform brain surgery? Both of those require tools and the knowledge of how and when to use them. There is no logic, no semblance of reason, in allowing those entrusted with the education of others to throw them under the bus - to deprive them of the ability to defend that which is most precious to them = their very lives!

    I call it the "Ivory Tower Syndrome" = if I don't see it, it doesn't exist, beside which I am smarter than you. You want to pass and graduate or continue working here? Then you will do it my way. To hell with facts and truth. Now get out of my office!
    Sounds about right.

    ( BTW as an engineer, there's no way I'd want to even try brain surgery. )

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmelvin View Post
    Sounds about right.

    ( BTW as an engineer, there's no way I'd want to even try brain surgery. )
    It would seem to have been practiced (love that word) on some in administrative positions within our state college system, judging by the results

    If signs and rules/regulations stopped crime, then a really huge billboard should be most effective.

    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training.” Archilochus, 650 BC

    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

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