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    Going to Las Vegas for Marine Corps Ball

    I am a Resident of komiefornia and I still open carry my rifles and shotguns regularly here in Ca. My wife and i will be headed to Las Vegas tomm night for my batallions Marine Corps ball. Ive been reading up on it and from what it seems i can carry my pistol openly in NV correct? Im pretty sure the hotels are all private property and carrying on the strip or anywhere near it would be impossible, Is open carry in the city limits of Las Vegas even legal?

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    Hey buddy, glad to see your coming to town. Open Carry is definitely legal in Nevada and Las Vegas. If you would have taken a look at the Nevada (Open) Carry Pamphlet sticky on our Nevada section then the pdf will give you a most of the information pertaining to open carry. I'm not exactly sure about if any steps need to be taken when coming from out of state to Las Vegas, but my other friends here will be able to clarify that. As for carrying on the strip and in casinos, you can legally, but if the casino security sees it. The security guards will ask you to either leave or store it in your vehicle or room.

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    FYI, most of the Strip in not in the city of Las Vegas. You may want to look into getting a Nevada permit to carry a concealed firearm.

    You may want to look at this thread: http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/sh...Carry-Pamphlet


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    Nevada law (IANAL):
    Nevada is a de facto open carry state and you may open carry if you choose. If you open carry in the high traffic tourist areas of Las Vegas you may have a visit from Metro or, Casino personnel may/will ask you to leave the property if you open carry in any casino. If anyone in authority in any private establishment asks you to leave you must leave under Nevada's trespass law.

    There is no restriction on having a firearm in your car, open or concealed as long as it is not concealed on your person (unless you have a permit).

    There is statewide preemption, but the Attorney General, on her web-site indicates that she may not think it applies in all cases.

    http://ag.state.nv.us/about/faqs/firearms/carry.htm

    If you have a permit that is valid in Nevada:

    Out of State Carry Concealed Weapon Permit Recognition

    *Effective July 1, 2012

    In accordance with NRS 202.3689 (effective October 1, 2007) the State of Nevada will recognize the following States' CCW permit holders:

    Alaska
    Arizona*
    Arkansas
    Kansas
    Kentucky*
    Louisiana
    Michigan
    Missouri
    Nebraska
    New Mexico
    North Carolina
    Ohio
    Tennessee
    Rhode Island
    South Carolina - Effective July 1, 2012
    West Virginia


    This law allows holders of valid permits from these states to carry a concealed weapon while in the State of Nevada. The permit must be in the possession of the issue at all times while carrying a firearm.

    ** NEW ** CCW Press Release re: S. Carolina Recognition

    Nevada Department of Public Safety

    NRS: CHAPTER 202 - CRIMES AGAINST PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY

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    You may carry concealed in Nevada ANYWHERE except:

    Buildings at the airport,
    Schools (including colleges) and child care facilitys,
    Public buildings (that means Government buildings) that are posted or have metal detectors.

    NRS: CHAPTER 202 - CRIMES AGAINST PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY

    That includes casinos, bars, clubs, restaurants, whorehouses (they are legal in parts of Nevada), ANYWHERE. They may ask you to leave for any reason, or no reason at all, and, under Nevada's trespass law, you must leave.

    You may drink while carrying. The BAC limit is 0.10 (DUI is 0.08, when they lowered it to get federal highway money they did not change the limit for CCW).

    NRS: CHAPTER 202 - CRIMES AGAINST PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY

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    I hope this clears up any questions. Nevada laws concerning weapons are, for the most part at NRS 202.253 through 202.369.

    Have fun in Nevada. Bring lots of money.

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    Strip carry is A-OK as well as Freemont Street. Hotels are private property and going to and from your room you may or may not get away with it. In the casino you will be asked to leave and escorted. If you do not, you are guilty of trespass. You may carry fully loaded including one in the tube. The only place you will run into trouble with the law is in the parks and government buildings, excluding Henderson.

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    Thanks i really appreciate the info guys. I got denied a while back for my ccw here in Cali for no reason whatsoever the sherrif just didnt think i needed to carry a weapon. Its nice to be going to a state that actually has the second ammendment. Im sure as you know here in komiefornia the second ammendment is slowly becoming extint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Big Guy View Post
    Hotels are private property and going to and from your room you may or may not get away with it. In the casino you will be asked to leave and escorted. If you do not, you are guilty of trespass.
    You can't be legally trespassed if you paid for your room. That would be criminal coercion, false imprisonment, and/or kidnapping, in addition to civil breach of contract.

    http://www.lvrj.com/news/resort-lose...-90726669.html

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    Outstanding. I'm tagging that one for future reference.
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    I work in a casino and they will almost always ask you to leave or to store the firearm with their security or in a vehicle. A lot of them have it in their rules when you check in and they are sometimes posted in your room or have to be asked for. So they can trespass you if you are a guest and evict you from your room. Now keep in mind they do not have to refund any funds if they do this. I'm sure people are going to argue this but it is a sad fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peckerwood1986 View Post
    ...A lot of them have it in their rules when you check in...
    Yep, don't assume! I wonder if their rules are available on their websites? I'm assuming you can make and pay for reservations online, right?
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    Some are some aren't. You are not actually supposed to be charged till you check out or when you make a reservation. If you book through a agency then the charge you pay is to them. It is a really messed up system and I have never seen anyone beet it even in court. All you have to do is argue with them at all and they will call metro To trespass you. The deposit you paid you may get back depending on the hotels policy. A lot of them have a policy that if you are evicted then they do not refund the deposit. And if you have multiple rooms under your name all rooms under your name will be evicted. It also go that if someone is staying in your room gets evicted some hotels will evict all rooms under the same name as that persons room that they are staying in for some hotels. It's a messed up policy by far. Where is the ball being held at ?

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    Its at the MGM im not worried about carrying it around the hotel or the strip because there in fact be copious amounts of alcohol in my system.

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    I oc all the time in north town with no problems. I know they have had their problems with it but I don't get harassed nor do my friends who do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoobee View Post
    Stay away from North Las Vegas also ... drunk or sober ... they have different rules up there ... and they will bust you.
    Why are you spreading false info? We have held open carry trash pick up in NLV with ZERO issues. Some of us carry in NLV regularly. Please stop trolling our forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peckerwood1986 View Post
    I work in a casino and they will almost always ask you to leave or to store the firearm with their security or in a vehicle. A lot of them have it in their rules when you check in and they are sometimes posted in your room or have to be asked for. So they can trespass you if you are a guest and evict you from your room. Now keep in mind they do not have to refund any funds if they do this. I'm sure people are going to argue this but it is a sad fact.
    It appears that Security may be overstepping by Renting a room to someone, and then throwing them out while they keep the money. (ya think?) Welcome to Peckerwood. It strikes me how the hotels in town refer to people who stay there as "guests" but looking at the trespass statute I have to wonder if the term "guest" is used for reason.

    NRS 207.200 Unlawful trespass upon land; warning against trespassing.

    1. Unless a greater penalty is provided pursuant to NRS 200.603, any person who, under circumstances not amounting to a burglary:

    (a) Goes upon the land or into any building of another with intent to vex or annoy the owner or occupant thereof, or to commit any unlawful act; or

    (b) Willfully goes or remains upon any land or in any building after having been warned by the owner or occupant thereof not to trespass,

    Ê is guilty of a misdemeanor. The meaning of this subsection is not limited by subsections 2 and 4.

    2. A sufficient warning against trespassing, within the meaning of this section, is given by any of the following methods:

    (a) If the land is used for agricultural purposes or for herding or grazing livestock, by painting with fluorescent orange paint:

    (1) Not less than 50 square inches of the exterior portion of a structure or natural object or the top 12 inches of the exterior portion of a post, whether made of wood, metal or other material, at:

    (I) Intervals of such a distance as is necessary to ensure that at least one such structure, natural object or post would be within the direct line of sight of a person standing next to another such structure, natural object or post, but at intervals of not more than 1,000 feet; and

    (II) Each corner of the land, upon or near the boundary; and

    (2) Each side of all gates, cattle guards and openings that are designed to allow human ingress to the area;

    (b) If the land is not used in the manner specified in paragraph (a), by painting with fluorescent orange paint not less than 50 square inches of the exterior portion of a structure or natural object or the top 12 inches of the exterior portion of a post, whether made of wood, metal or other material, at:

    (1) Intervals of such a distance as is necessary to ensure that at least one such structure, natural object or post would be within the direct line of sight of a person standing next to another such structure, natural object or post, but at intervals of not more than 200 feet; and

    (2) Each corner of the land, upon or near the boundary;

    (c) Fencing the area; or

    (d) By the owner or occupant of the land or building making an oral or written demand to any guest to vacate the land or building.

    3. It is prima facie evidence of trespass for any person to be found on private or public property which is posted or fenced as provided in subsection 2 without lawful business with the owner or occupant of the property.

    4. An entryman on land under the laws of the United States is an owner within the meaning of this section.

    5. As used in this section:

    (a) “Fence” means a barrier sufficient to indicate an intent to restrict the area to human ingress, including, but not limited to, a wall, hedge or chain link or wire mesh fence. The term does not include a barrier made of barbed wire.

    (b) “Guest” means any person entertained or to whom hospitality is extended, including, but not limited to, any person who stays overnight. The term does not include a tenant as defined in NRS 118A.170.

    [1911 C&P § 500; RL § 6765; NCL § 10447]—(NRS A 1969, 96; 1975, 1169; 1987, 2086; 1989, 997; 2005, 930; 2007, 981; 2009, 141)






    NRS 118A.170 “Tenant” defined. “Tenant” means a person entitled under a rental agreement to occupy a dwelling unit to the exclusion of others.

    (Added to NRS by 1977, 1332)

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    I think they are to but according to the courts when it has gone that far they ar legally allowed to do it. They have it there in the small print. I have worked at multiple casinos and they all had it. They will give you the chance to lock it up when it's on the property or to leave it in your car. If you refuse they or argue to much then they will evict you. I personally think it is wrong and do not agree with it but that is their decision. They only thing that saves their buts it that when you sign into your room you are agreeing to their rules and they don't post them most of the time. It's kind of like a terms of use agreement. In the hotel I work at now there is a sign inside of evey room that states we are not responsible for any items left out of the safe. But if you read the fine print in our rules basically it states that we are not even responsible for the items in the safe. The reason for it is you have to set the code for the door to lock. So when you check in the safe is open and inorder for it to lock shut you have to punch in a code that you choose twice then that code will be the only one that opens it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoobee View Post
    Stay away from North Las Vegas also ... drunk or sober ... they have different rules up there ... and they will bust you.
    I'm not sure what qualifies you to say this.

    I carry in NLV quite frequently.

    I do not know of hassles to people who were not already in trouble for something else, and I don't know of many of those.
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    There was nothing concrete, in that thread. We've had more, detailed threads on this site, and people who have actually worked through their system.
    Hoka hey

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    Quote Originally Posted by peckerwood1986 View Post
    The reason for it is you have to set the code for the door to lock. So when you check in the safe is open and inorder for it to lock shut you have to punch in a code that you choose twice then that code will be the only one that opens it.
    To add to this, if you decide to lock your sidearm in the safe in the room, if for some reason the code doesn't work (which happens about 1/20 the time), security does have a system to open it again, only takes them like 30 seconds to get it open max. I've used it before when I worked at MGM.

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    I have spoken to several people in the security department where I work, which is a strip hotel. What they say about open carry is that you may open carry in the hotel provided you are a registered hotel guest, or are in the process of checking in and you may do so for the purpose of entering or exiting the property to/from your room. Basically what they are saying is, OC is fine if you are coming to or going directly to and from your room. If you wish to carry while within your room, they are perfectly okay with this as well, but while using their other facilities that are open to the public, they require that your firearm be secured either in your room, in a house safety deposit box, or in the security locker. I'm not sure what the NRS is, but there are several laws that give you certain rights while lodged in a hotel in Nevada, and if I'm not mistaken, easement is one of them. Because your hotel room in an extension of your residence, your constitutional rights are extended to include easement into and out of your room.

    I asked them about CC, their response was that they know people are carrying concealed on their premises and that what they don't know they cant stop, but if discovered they will ask you to leave or secure your firearm elsewhere. If anyone has the NRS statutes WRT the rights of hotel guests, those might be helpful as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peckerwood1986 View Post
    I think they are to but according to the courts when it has gone that far they ar legally allowed to do it. They have it there in the small print. I have worked at multiple casinos and they all had it. They will give you the chance to lock it up when it's on the property or to leave it in your car. If you refuse they or argue to much then they will evict you. I personally think it is wrong and do not agree with it but that is their decision. They only thing that saves their buts it that when you sign into your room you are agreeing to their rules and they don't post them most of the time. It's kind of like a terms of use agreement. In the hotel I work at now there is a sign inside of evey room that states we are not responsible for any items left out of the safe. But if you read the fine print in our rules basically it states that we are not even responsible for the items in the safe. The reason for it is you have to set the code for the door to lock. So when you check in the safe is open and inorder for it to lock shut you have to punch in a code that you choose twice then that code will be the only one that opens it.
    ROTFLOL, keep on listening to the man, keep on believing the fine print BS and every thing will be fine. Do you really believe that if the Casinos put it in fine print that is what is going to happen, LOL? Do you really believe that the Casinos can not be held responsible if they simply say so? once again LOL. If this were the case all you would have to do is post a sign on your property stating you are not responsible for any thing that happens on your property and you would be immune from any and all lawsuits.

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    I'm sorry to say but by using their property you accept their terms. It's not right but that Is how it is. I have seen many people try to fight it and lose. It's basically a terms of use. It's just like when you are having a voluntary surgery they have you sign a waver saying they are not responsible. They do not force you to stay there its by your choice so you choose to adhere to their policies and rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nevada carrier View Post
    I have spoken to several people in the security department where I work, which is a strip hotel. What they say about open carry is that you may open carry in the hotel provided you are a registered hotel guest, or are in the process of checking in and you may do so for the purpose of entering or exiting the property to/from your room. Basically what they are saying is, OC is fine if you are coming to or going directly to and from your room. If you wish to carry while within your room, they are perfectly okay with this as well, but while using their other facilities that are open to the public, they require that your firearm be secured either in your room, in a house safety deposit box, or in the security locker. I'm not sure what the NRS is, but there are several laws that give you certain rights while lodged in a hotel in Nevada, and if I'm not mistaken, easement is one of them. Because your hotel room in an extension of your residence, your constitutional rights are extended to include easement into and out of your room.

    I asked them about CC, their response was that they know people are carrying concealed on their premises and that what they don't know they cant stop, but if discovered they will ask you to leave or secure your firearm elsewhere. If anyone has the NRS statutes WRT the rights of hotel guests, those might be helpful as well.
    If your a guest here is the NRS on eviction:
    NRS 651.020 Eviction of disorderly persons. Every owner or keeper of any hotel, inn, motel, motor court, or boardinghouse or lodging house in this State shall have the right to evict from such premises anyone who acts in a disorderly manner, or who destroys the property of any such owner or keeper, or who causes a public disturbance in or upon such premises.


    NRS 651.005 “Premises” defined. As used in NRS 651.005 to 651.040, inclusive, “premises” includes, but is not limited to, all buildings, improvements, equipment and facilities, including any parking lot, recreational facility or other land, used or maintained in connection with a hotel, inn, motel, motor court, boardinghouse or lodging house.

    I'm not sure they can make a distinction between the hall, your room, or the casino in the case of OC. And NO I do not wish to be the test case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lasjayhawk View Post
    If your a guest here is the NRS on eviction:
    NRS 651.020 Eviction of disorderly persons. Every owner or keeper of any hotel, inn, motel, motor court, or boardinghouse or lodging house in this State shall have the right to evict from such premises anyone who acts in a disorderly manner, or who destroys the property of any such owner or keeper, or who causes a public disturbance in or upon such premises.


    NRS 651.005 “Premises” defined. As used in NRS 651.005 to 651.040, inclusive, “premises” includes, but is not limited to, all buildings, improvements, equipment and facilities, including any parking lot, recreational facility or other land, used or maintained in connection with a hotel, inn, motel, motor court, boardinghouse or lodging house.

    I'm not sure they can make a distinction between the hall, your room, or the casino in the case of OC. And NO I do not wish to be the test case.
    I believe there may be case law that applies, but I'm torn between looking for it and another snifter of Laphroaig.... Nah, no contest, Laphroaig it is!
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