Freedom1Man
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[video=youtube_share;cElTyqJkMEw]http://youtu.be/cElTyqJkMEw[/video]
I hope this does not break forum rules.
I hope this does not break forum rules.
I didn't bother to read the initial post, but the subject matter demands comment.
You should never shoot a cop. NEVER. By the time you get to the point where you can morally and legally shoot a thug wearing a policeman's uniform, he has long since stopped being a law enforcement officer and become a criminal from whom you are defending yourself.
That will be a rare occurrence, but there are several anecdotes of it happening.
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SNIP Lot's of good points made in the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjBsmJ6LOTg&feature=related <ask a Jew the truth.I can fill pages with the errors and the insanity in this video.
You don't have the right to kill any body. if you kill someone under any circumstances you are guilty of the elements of the crimes of manslaughter and/or murder. self-defense is an affirmative defense, meaning you must admit to those elements in order to use the defense. so when this guy says you have the right to kill cops, he's wrong.
You may not kill police officers to stop an unreasonable search of your property, killing a cop means you would have to invoke justifiable homicide as a defense, and in nearly every state justifiable homicide only applies if your life or limb or that of your family are threatened. someone just rummaging through your car or your bag is not justification to blow them away. If the search of your property is illegal you have the right to challenge that in court. we settle issues like that with arguments, not bullets. That's exactly what the Indiana supreme court said BTW. Not true in Washington state. If the cop is acting outside the law and is committing a felony on your person, then he/she is just another citizen at that point and so it's legal to slay them.
"cop-killers" are not honorable people fighting for freedom, they're worthless cowards who don't want to go to prison. Oh? The cowards are the ones who hide behind a badge knowing that if they kill you "by mistake" they are getting a paid vacation and a retirement. The idea that "cops" as we know cops were committing the atrocities of Nazi Germany is false. How is it not true? I might give you a little leeway and instead point out that they are just as criminal as the crown's police force just before the revolution. There as at least one ruling that you have no right to refuse police entry into your home. The police can search you in the name of a "Terry Stop" without a warrant, etc. As for the NAZI reference it could be the same reference to the former Soviet Russia, "papers please, you must have your papers to be out in the public viewing." Translating that to let's see your ID The german law enforcement structure had multiple arms, the "Cops" of Nazi Germany were the members of the "Ordnungspolizei" who conducted traffic enforcement, administrative law enforcement functions like permitting such, responded to service calls, and the like, also firefighting and other emergency services were handled by the "Ordnungspolizei" This force was not directly involved in the atrocities of Nazi germany, at least not to the best of my knowledge (some Ordnungspolizei units staffed by SS reservists did security work for concentration camps however, normally the units posted in poland, all of these policeman were really members of the SS and thus were actually soldiers of the Waffen and not ordinary police officers, the units I'm referring to were the domestic german units manned mainly by middle aged civilians or reservists who performed uniformed patrol and the like and were actual cops.). Atrocities were committed by active military units (of the Waffen SS, the general army or "Wehrmacht" wasn't usually involved in the death camps and oppression of the populace either) and by the "Gestapo" which was the "secret police" who dealt with political dissidents and assisted with the ethnic cleansing. it wasn't the lowly officer on the beat executing jews. the Ordnungspolizei structure was used after WW2, and in allied controlled germany, the remains of the regular police were used to conduct law enforcement after the nazi government was deposed (although they weren't allowed to carry guns by the allies until the 1950s) So saying your local sheriffs department is going to come and take you away to be oppressed and harmed by an organized tyrannical structure on the magnitude of Nazi germany has little historical basis. The Holocaust, as taught in schools, has little to no historical basis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjBsmJ6LOTg&feature=related <ask a Jew the truth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm8UmMuRSSw&feature=related&bpctr=1352700486 <ask a guy who was there.
What did Amerika do? http://www.historyonthenet.com/WW2/japan_internment_camps.htm <what we accused Hitler of doing.
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Not sure that's off topic or not. What with the NDAA and all. I paid for my coffee with cash this morning, how do I know they are not about to throw me in Guantanamo? :shocker:
SNIP You don't have the right to kill any body. if you kill someone under any circumstances you are guilty of the elements of the crimes of manslaughter and/or murder. self-defense is an affirmative defense, meaning you must admit to those elements in order to use the defense. so when this guy says you have the right to kill cops, he's wrong.
SNIP You may not kill police officers to stop an unreasonable search of your property.
Completely aside from the posted topic,
does anyone else see the far-left cop in the still picture in post #1 pointing his pistol at the several officers ahead of him in line?
And does it look like his finger is on the trigger?
Maybe his training officer needs to do some work there...
I agree that he makes a number of good points. But, his magnitudes are out of kilter. He leads with mass-killer tyrants to connect lethality of law and cops in jurisdictions where there are no mass killings.
If his point is to show that it is occasionally necessary to kill a cop, he went about it all wrong. He could just show a few examples of cops showing AOJ on citizens and be done with it.
If his point was to foment rebellion, why bring cops into it at all?
If his point was to help break the mindset that it in never OK to kill a cop, he could just show a few examples of cops showing AOJ on citizens and be done with it.
If his point was to get people to stop automatically believing the cop was the good guy every time a cop died, that is to say, put a chink in the armor against never killing a cop, he could just show examples of cops showing AOJ, etc.
So, overall, I would say, first, I don't get. And, whatever his point is, there must be a better way to get it across.
(snip) I think this was done by a younger person full of passion yet not as focused as a more experienced person.
Larken Rose is an anti-government writer who was unjustly sentenced to 15 months in federal prison for being a tax protestor. While in prison, he wrote a book called Kicking the Dragon. His novel, The Iron Web, is about a dystopian future that could well be where we're heading. His other works include How to Be a Successful Tyrant, and Theft by Deception. He also produced the classic YouTube video, I'm Allowed to Rob You.
Easy there. Even a slow knuckle-dragger like me ....