JSlack7851
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Something I found on the Six O' Clock news.
http://s979.beta.photobucket.com/user/JSlack7851/media/MVI_53841.mp4.html
http://s979.beta.photobucket.com/user/JSlack7851/media/MVI_53841.mp4.html
Can't get this to come up on my phone...what's it say?
My preliminary comment based on the thread title is: Are you F-ing kidding me?
Me thinks you get the jest w/o watching. Unions ... no unions for public employees is the answer
I think you meant gist. But jest kinda of works as well because this idiot getting his badge back seems like some kind of horrible joke.
It also tells you the mentality of the people in the decision-making process who would give back that badge.
Wasn't it an arbitrator who gave him his job back (conditionally on his ability to be found fit to serve by a doctor)? That leads me to believe that the department fought his reinstatement and the union fought for it. Unless more information comes to light, I blame the union and the arbitrator, not the department.
And it is of course the union's position that those WORSE offenses should ALSO not be punished with termination. It is the union's opinion that NOBODY should be terminated REGARDLESS of the nature of the offense. Hence we have the potential for BOTH Harless and possibly even greater psychopaths wandering the streets carrying guns and making up and enforcing whatever "law" they manage to conjure up in the twisted precincts of what passes for their "minds".You are correct on who fought for who however, not correct on who to blame. The arbitrator based his decision on past discipline within the department along with the discipline record of Harless. Essentially, Harless had a near perfect record on paper. The department also had individuals that had committed worse violations and received less punishment than firing. I've yet to figure out what those violations could be, but they helped Harless in this case.
Based on that, the arbitrator essentially had to grant Harless his job back. If the city had properly documented all his infractions and had properly punished others for worse infractions, the firing would have stood.
I predicted this outcome when this mess started.
And it is of course the union's position that those WORSE offenses should ALSO not be punished with termination. It is the union's opinion that NOBODY should be terminated REGARDLESS of the nature of the offense. Hence we have the potential for BOTH Harless and possibly even greater psychopaths wandering the streets carrying guns and making up and enforcing whatever "law" they manage to conjure up in the twisted precincts of what passes for their "minds".
The Canton Police Department has effectively reduced itself to the level of a Somali militia. Thank god Canton isn't adjacent to Lake Erie, otherwise we'd probably start hearing about pirate attacks...
I have no contractual obligation to respect the union.Th union has a contractual obligation to defend Harless.
SNIP The REAL purpose of police unions is to create a two tier society of citizens and above them an unaccountable caste of police with unlimited power, beyond the reach of the laws which bind the public at large.
You are correct on who fought for who however, not correct on who to blame. The arbitrator based his decision on past discipline within the department along with the discipline record of Harless. Essentially, Harless had a near perfect record on paper. The department also had individuals that had committed worse violations and received less punishment than firing. I've yet to figure out what those violations could be, but they helped Harless in this case.
Based on that, the arbitrator essentially had to grant Harless his job back. If the city had properly documented all his infractions and had properly punished others for worse infractions, the firing would have stood.
I predicted this outcome when this mess started.
Sorry to say this, but that is crap.
This man behaved criminally. There is no need for a lousy record. There is no need for warnings. There is no need for escalating levels of discipline. Cops should be fired and jailed the first time they commit an act as egregious as this one. No matter what happened prior, the only right thing to happen in this case is for Harless to be gone. Shame on the union and shame on the arbitrator. Also, shame on anyone for defending those who shamelessly defended Harless.