So what exactly do you guys do when asked to leave?

Asked to leave or cover your firearm? Do you try to explain that OC is perfectly legal and you're doing nothing wrong, give in and cover/put the gun in the car, or just leave the business and go somewhere else?

It doesn't happen often. When it does, I go elsewhere.

The one and only time it happened to me, there were several cops backing up the invitation, so---I left.

I usually recommend immediately walking to the door. If the building allows, I suggest asking the company rep to accompany you to the door and remonstrating with him/her on the way out.

"Yes, ma'am. Happy to oblige. Lets talk on my way out." Then, as you are walking out you can try various comments to see if you can make a dent in the request:

"Who would you rather have in your store, a person who takes responsibility for their own safety or a fraidy cat?" Of course, you have to be careful you're not insulting the employee.

"You know carry is legal, right?"

Etc. Just something to break the ice. In fact, an even better ice-breaker might be

"Gee, you must hate having to put out a responsible customer. I'm sorry your employer put you in that position. How do you handle it?"

You never know, by the time you get to the door, they may change their mind. The point is that by walking to the door, you don't get into contention about leaving. And, more importantly that contention is not in the way of your attempted handling. I got five bucks that even if they don't change their mind, almost all of them will at least stop and talk to you for a few minutes at the door or just outside.

I always urge never, ever mention that there were no signs. If you ask, they will come. Then even the respectful CCers will be disarmed or forced to not patronize. And, don't argue. Its pointless, and just likely to make the other person dig in their heels.

If you're asked to leave by an agent of the establishment (pretty sure any employee, anyone have a cite?) you should do so, as the police can arrest for trespassing if you remain. If they come up and say they don't want the gun in the establishment, then I'll usually try to explain the legalities up until the point where I'm asked to leave. If they ask me to put it in the car and come back, I tell them I will leave but that I won't be back.

FerretMI said:

If you're asked to leave by an agent of the establishment (pretty sure any employee, anyone have a cite?) you should do so, as the police can arrest for trespassing if you remain. If they come up and say they don't want the gun in the establishment, then I'll usually try to explain the legalities up until the point where I'm asked to leave. If they ask me to put it in the car and come back, I tell them I will leave but that I won't be back.

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I'm not singling you out, Ferret. I am more addressing a point that has been repeated on this forum across time.

I've had good luck with cleanly acknowledging in a friendly way the person's right to hold that opinion. I once had a young restaurant hostess make a comment hostile to guns. I replied that the wonderful thing about our country was the freedom to hold such an opinion. I said it in a friendly way, no rancor or counter-antagonism. A couple visits later to the same restaurant, the hostess had a couple friends at the podium. A friend asked about the gun, not in total opposition, but you could tell she wasn't happy about it. The hostess, my former antagonist, promptly spoke up in support of the right to keep and bear arms (her words)!!!!!

So, a kind acknowledgement placed just right must have got the hostess to thinking, whereas surely a bitter comment would have just set her opinion even harder.

If they ask, leave. But as mentioned before try to get an escort and get employee name on the way out. Then call from your car or disarm and come back to talk to a manager. If it was a manager call corporate. If its a single owner mom and pop shop leave a no gun no business card and leave with a smile. Simple. Failure to leave is a trespass-able offense and you may be cited/ jailed. It is after all private property.

I leave. I don't stand there and argue about my rights , state law, or how I'll never be back (I do that later via email). I simply and quickly leave.

TheQ said:

I leave. I don't stand there and argue about my rights , state law, or how I'll never be back (I do that later via email). I simply and quickly leave.

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Ding ding ding, we have a winner.

Bronson

I had a mother in law who refused to leave our house. The look on her face was priceless as grabbed her by the hair and and seat of her pants and threw her out the door.

Sorcice said:

If they ask, leave. But as mentioned before try to get an escort and get employee name on the way out. Then call from your car or disarm and come back to talk to a manager. If it was a manager call corporate. If its a single owner mom and pop shop leave a no gun no business card and leave with a smile. Simple. Failure to leave is a trespass-able offense and you may be cited/ jailed. It is after all private property.

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If the place of business just tells a person to leave, and does not tell them they can come back unarmed, it is unwise to return.

WalkingWolf said:

I had a mother in law who refused to leave our house. The look on her face was priceless as grabbed her by the hair and and seat of her pants and threw her out the door.

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In the south this may fly. Here if the old bat called the cops, someone is going to jail, and it probably ain't her:what:

Get2DahChopper said:

In the south this may fly. Here if the old bat called the cops, someone is going to jail, and it probably ain't her:what:

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I was the cops, and she had a illegal concealed handgun in her purse, which I confiscated before I tossed her from the house. She had threatened me with it right before she got the surprise of her life.

I've never been asked to leave, but if I am I will simply ask for that persons name so that I can contact corporate and make a complaint against them and leave.

My long standing theory is that it's so rare to be kicked out of somewhere, especially if you look and act respectable, that I consider it a good milestone that marks the passage of a lot of time OCing when you get kicked out of a business.

It's a good time to celebrate that you're OCing a lot. With this attitude, you can actually look forward to those times you get told to get told to leave, rather than hoping it doesn't happen.

WalkingWolf said:

I was the cops, and she had a illegal concealed handgun in her purse, which I confiscated before I tossed her from the house. She had threatened me with it right before she got the surprise of her life.

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PRICELESS! :banana::banana::banana:

Michigander said:

My long standing theory is that it's so rare to be kicked out of somewhere, especially if you look and act respectable, that I consider it a good milestone that marks the passage of a lot of time OCing when you get kicked out of a business.

It's a good time to celebrate that you're OCing a lot. With this attitude, you can actually look forward to those times you get told to get told to leave, rather than hoping it doesn't happen.

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I act responsible wherever I go..now look, there's a different story. I've seen pictures of a few of you guys, you look like..well, normal Americans

Me...I don't exactly wear button down shirts and slacks. I have a mohawk, and lots of tattoos. People generally think I'm up to no good, even when I don't have a gun on my hip. I refuse to cover my tattoos and feel about as strongly about it as covering my firearm, so I may just be the most hassled OCer in the future. We'll see how it goes!

MikeTheGreek said:

I act responsible wherever I go..now look, there's a different story. I've seen pictures of a few of you guys, you look like..well, normal Americans

Me...I don't exactly wear button down shirts and slacks. I have a mohawk, and lots of tattoos. People generally think I'm up to no good, even when I don't have a gun on my hip. I refuse to cover my tattoos and feel about as strongly about it as covering my firearm, so I may just be the most hassled OCer in the future. We'll see how it goes!

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You shouldn't have to cover your tattoos, I bet there are more tattooed members here than you think. And a few of us long haired hairy faced boogey men.

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You shouldn't have to cover your tattoos, I bet there are more tattooed members here than you think. And a few of us long haired hairy faced boogey men.

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I have a tattoo of a sun around my anus....

TheQ said:

I have a tattoo of a sun around my anus....

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I forgot how much you scare me sometimes in the 9 months that I was gone.

TheQ said:

I have a tattoo of a sun around my anus....

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That seems like it would burn...