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    2013 legislative season

    So 2013 is not too far away. I was wondering if there is a central website where all the proposed legislation to be considered in the VA 2013 legislative season can be found. If it's not up yet, when is it published?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiK_SacK View Post
    So 2013 is not too far away. I was wondering if there is a central website where all the proposed legislation to be considered in the VA 2013 legislative season can be found. If it's not up yet, when is it published?
    VCDL usually sets up a website for the gun-related bills, but it is still rather early for that. Most legislators have not yet submitted their bills. Usually December is when they start to show up.

    Some helpful links:

    Virginia Legislative System page with all the 2013 bills:
    http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?131+lst+ALL

    (Note: There are quite a few bills in there already, which were carried over from last year, including HB48 the faulty "Castle Doctrine" bill, which we hope to replace this year with this one: http://www.vcdl.org/codify2012.html)

    VCDL's 2012 Legislation Tracking Tool:
    http://www.vcdl.org/static/2012leg.html

    Presumable link to VCDL's 2013 Legislation Tracking Tool (not yet active):
    http://www.vcdl.org/static/2013leg.html

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    2013 legislative season

    Thanks TFred! That's exactly what I was looking for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiK_SacK View Post
    So 2013 is not too far away. I was wondering if there is a central website where all the proposed legislation to be considered in the VA 2013 legislative season can be found. If it's not up yet, when is it published?
    It's a little early. Things are still at Legislative Services having the bugs worked out and much hasn't even been submitted to them yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiK_SacK View Post
    So 2013 is not too far away. I was wondering if there is a central website where all the proposed legislation to be considered in the VA 2013 legislative season can be found. If it's not up yet, when is it published?
    VCDL has not officially released the organizations legislative agenda yet. Many things are a work in progress and it is too early to make their status publicly known.

    Keep in mind that 2013 will be a short session for the GA with everything compressed into a few weeks, so some new items may not get a full review. Nevertheless, it will be an interesting and stimulating session.

    Be patient and stand by - there's more to come.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    VCDL has not officially released the organizations legislative agenda yet. Many things are a work in progress and it is too early to make their status publicly known.

    Keep in mind that 2013 will be a short session for the GA with everything compressed into a few weeks, so some new items may not get a full review. Nevertheless, it will be an interesting and stimulating session.

    Be patient and stand by - there's more to come.
    Yep and there is already posturing and positioning for the upcoming elections. Obamacare workarounds are in the Q already. I don't expect a lot of progress in gun bills but a possible in cleaning up and defining some areas.

    Look for a huge dumping of bills shortly before the prefile deadline.

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    So far.. guns not really talked about...

    Legislative Issue Brief containing likely issues for the next (2013) Session of the General Assembly

    http://dls.virginia.gov/pubs/briefs/Brief56.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by ed View Post
    So far.. guns not really talked about...

    Legislative Issue Brief containing likely issues for the next (2013) Session of the General Assembly

    http://dls.virginia.gov/pubs/briefs/Brief56.pdf
    Once we get Ken Cuccinelli in office then we can really talk firearms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by love4guns View Post
    Once we get Ken Cuccinelli in office then we can really talk firearms.
    Do not count on it, grasshopper.

    Ken has been "kind" to our cause most of the time because the law was on our side. There have been a few exceptions to that. Most have been minor enough that most folks seem to have given him a pass - sort of like they have given Eric Cantor a pass for not telling the 7th Congressional District Committee that he does not want them to exclude folks with guns from the Republican Roundup and to go find a different venue.

    It is a test of just how sigle-issue one is. Or how much one is willing to compromise while knowing that eventually that mile will be taken (often with force).

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    Quote Originally Posted by love4guns View Post
    Once we get Ken Cuccinelli in office then we can really talk firearms.
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    Do not count on it, grasshopper.

    Ken has been "kind" to our cause most of the time because the law was on our side. There have been a few exceptions to that. Most have been minor enough that most folks seem to have given him a pass - sort of like they have given Eric Cantor a pass for not telling the 7th Congressional District Committee that he does not want them to exclude folks with guns from the Republican Roundup and to go find a different venue.

    It is a test of just how sigle-issue one is. Or how much one is willing to compromise while knowing that eventually that mile will be taken (often with force).

    stay safe.
    Skid's right. After all, it was Ken who advised state colleges that their "policies" to exclude guns from campuses didn't have the force of law, but a "regulation" (which they could implement without fanfare) did.

    And he pointed out that "state agencies" aren't bound by preemption.

    His efforts to "clear things up" have muddied the water more than once. We may need to "talk firearms" just to keep things as they are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2a4all View Post
    Skid's right. After all, it was Ken who advised state colleges that their "policies" to exclude guns from campuses didn't have the force of law, but a "regulation" (which they could implement without fanfare) did.

    And he pointed out that "state agencies" aren't bound by preemption.

    His efforts to "clear things up" have muddied the water more than once. We may need to "talk firearms" just to keep things as they are.
    Yeah, I don't understand why Ken wants to really do his job. All he had to do was cover up that little regulation thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by love4guns View Post
    Once we get Ken Cuccinelli in office then we can really talk firearms.
    Comedy on OCDO. Ken Cuccinelli is already in office, and it hasn't worked out that great for gun rights. "Screwed by the cooch" is what is often said here about the man. He is no "Toll Booth Bob", but he is another reason to look to the libertarians for real firearms rights in Virginia.
    He wore his gun outside his pants for all the honest world to see. Pancho & Lefty

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thundar View Post
    Comedy on OCDO. Ken Cuccinelli is already in office, and it hasn't worked out that great for gun rights. "Screwed by the cooch" is what is often said here about the man. He is no "Toll Booth Bob", but he is another reason to look to the libertarians for real firearms rights in Virginia.
    Sorry, but the blame for what the AG has done by way of opinions should not fall only on the AG. Asking the right question, phrased the right way, at the right time, has a lot to do with getting the answer you were hoping for.

    Two priests both submit questions to the Bishop: A) "is it permitted to smoke while praying?" and B) "is it permitted to pray while smoking?".

    A gets told "No" in absolute terms. B gets patted on the head and reminded that prayer is good at all times. Guess who gets to keep on puffing away?

    We have had too many folks asking their elected representatives to ask the AG if it is permitted to smoke while praying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2a4all View Post
    Skid's right. After all, it was Ken who advised state colleges that their "policies" to exclude guns from campuses didn't have the force of law, but a "regulation" (which they could implement without fanfare) did.

    And he pointed out that "state agencies" aren't bound by preemption.

    His efforts to "clear things up" have muddied the water more than once. We may need to "talk firearms" just to keep things as they are.
    However, he did offer an opinion on the wisdom of promulgating such regulations (by universities), in that they would only serve to disarm the law-abiding. All state run institutions of higher learning do not appear to have jumped on this bandwagon (yet).

    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    Sorry, but the blame for what the AG has done by way of opinions should not fall only on the AG. Asking the right question, phrased the right way, at the right time, has a lot to do with getting the answer you were hoping for.

    Two priests both submit questions to the Bishop: A) "is it permitted to smoke while praying?" and B) "is it permitted to pray while smoking?".

    A gets told "No" in absolute terms. B gets patted on the head and reminded that prayer is good at all times. Guess who gets to keep on puffing away?

    We have had too many folks asking their elected representatives to ask the AG if it is permitted to smoke while praying.

    stay safe.
    Ken was asked one of these questions, and actually answered both when he said that self defense was a good and sufficient reason to carry into place of worship.
    A law-abiding citizen should be able to carry his personal protection firearm anywhere that an armed criminal might go.

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