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    Owensboro Hospital

    I noticed this week when I stayed at the hospital with my brother who had surgery they had signs posted outside the hospital that no weapons open or conceal were allowed. I was under the impression that the hospital was owned by the city or the county one. But now I am not sure.

    Here is the only information I could find. I am not well versed in this legal stuff. Does what is written below make it a privately own non-profit company or is it still owned by the city and county? Or the state for that matter? It looks to me like the local governments created their own non-profit corporation and if so can they still ban OC there?

    1991: City, County and Owensboro-Daviess County Hospital create alliance…

    The City, County and Owensboro-Daviess County Hospital entered into an Interlocal Cooperation Agreement (approved by the Kentucky Attorney General).
    1995: Owensboro-Daviess County Hospital and Mercy Hospital merge …

    This merger (approved by the Kentucky Attorney General and the U.S. Department of Justice) created a not-for-profit corporation with a 20-member board – ten from ODCH, Inc. and ten appointed by Catholic Health Partners, a private not-for-profit Catholic corporation.
    2003: Name change: Owensboro Medical Health System is born ...

    Owensboro Mercy Health System officially changed its name to Owensboro Medical Health System in October of 2003. The OMHS acronym remained the same throughout the change, and the hospital’s name was changed slightly, reflecting the minor change in the hospital organization.

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    Their viewpoint will be that they get many gunshot victims of gang related activity & end up having 100s of rival gang members in their facility at any one time ... that will be one of their reasons ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    Their viewpoint will be that they get many gunshot victims of gang related activity & end up having 100s of rival gang members in their facility at any one time ... that will be one of their reasons ...
    That would be funny. Gunshots here are rare and gang activity is pretty nil or petty stuff to say the least. I listen to the scanner a lot. A leo could get pretty bored here.
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    I thought chapter 237 covered this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KYKevin View Post
    I noticed this week when I stayed at the hospital with my brother who had surgery they had signs posted outside the hospital that no weapons open or conceal were allowed. I was under the impression that the hospital was owned by the city or the county one. But now I am not sure.

    Here is the only information I could find. I am not well versed in this legal stuff. Does what is written below make it a privately own non-profit company or is it still owned by the city and county? Or the state for that matter? It looks to me like the local governments created their own non-profit corporation and if so can they still ban OC there?

    1991: City, County and Owensboro-Daviess County Hospital create alliance…

    The City, County and Owensboro-Daviess County Hospital entered into an Interlocal Cooperation Agreement (approved by the Kentucky Attorney General).
    1995: Owensboro-Daviess County Hospital and Mercy Hospital merge …

    This merger (approved by the Kentucky Attorney General and the U.S. Department of Justice) created a not-for-profit corporation with a 20-member board – ten from ODCH, Inc. and ten appointed by Catholic Health Partners, a private not-for-profit Catholic corporation.
    2003: Name change: Owensboro Medical Health System is born ...

    Owensboro Mercy Health System officially changed its name to Owensboro Medical Health System in October of 2003. The OMHS acronym remained the same throughout the change, and the hospital’s name was changed slightly, reflecting the minor change in the hospital organization.

    If you enter the building through one of the main entrances, no one would know you were carrying. BUT---if you come in through the emergency room, either during the day or after hours, you WILL go through a metal detector and your bags/purses WILL be searched. I know, I've gone through it a couple of times there. :-P Ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RebeccaC View Post
    If you enter the building through one of the main entrances, no one would know you were carrying. BUT---if you come in through the emergency room, either during the day or after hours, you WILL go through a metal detector and your bags/purses WILL be searched. I know, I've gone through it a couple of times there. :-P Ridiculous.
    This is interesting. If it is a privately-owned facility then I could see the use of metal detectors. If it is owned by a government agency I don't see how they could make an E.R. a Constitution-free zone.
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    "Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined."-Patrick Henry; speaking of protecting the rights of an armed citizenry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KYGlockster View Post
    This is interesting. If it is a privately-owned facility then I could see the use of metal detectors. If it is owned by a government agency I don't see how they could make an E.R. a Constitution-free zone.
    Sounds like they already did just that, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gutshot View Post
    A trip to the local PVA office can clear up who owns this property.
    That's right, and if I were the OP I would be making a trip to find out who indeed owns the property.
    "I never in my life seen a Kentuckian without a gun..."-Andrew Jackson

    "Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined."-Patrick Henry; speaking of protecting the rights of an armed citizenry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KYGlockster View Post
    That's right, and if I were the OP I would be making a trip to find out who indeed owns the property.
    I'll look into as soon as I get a chance. Brother is out of the hospital now but looks like I'll be staying with him while he recovers for a week or two. Thanks for the help all.
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    Well I still haven't had a chance to go down there yet. But I did find this information online. Do I understand any of this legal stuff. LOL no. If anyone else can make heads or tails of it let me know what you think. Too it looks like the hospital was just turned into a private non profit after a merger with what use to be a local catholic hospital.

    Here is what I got from the PVA search:

    http://www.daviesskypva.org/dcpva/in...rish%20Ave%20E

    And here is all the stuff from the sec of state:

    https://app.sos.ky.gov/ftshow/(S(ex1...ct=09&cs=99999
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    We all speak of liberty and freedom like we are the only ones that know the truth and the right path. But if we expect everyone to accept and follow our path and to accept our truth and want to force it upon them then that is no longer liberty or freedom. It is slavery. I believe in liberty for all. Regardless of their political views, religion, race, sex, etc.

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