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    CPL Class...do I need a concealable holster?

    I have my CPL class tomorrow at 830. I have a question for anyone who knows, and it may be a REALLY dumb question.

    Do I need a concealable holster for the class?

    I have a few holster, but my main one is my iTac Lowride, which keeps my gun secure and holstered about 6-7 inches below my belt, making OC extremely easy no matter what I'm wearing, even my coats.

    I'm not exactly sure if they make you draw from conceal or if theyll mind a lowride holster, figure I'd ask you guys instead of bringing multiple ones. I'd rather do my training in my iTac but if I have to, I'll use my high galco holster.
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    Uhm even coming from you Mike, no question is dumb

    Almost all ranges DO NOT allow you to draw & fire from a holster. (Nothing like never being able to practice real world scenario's ). So the short answer is it's a 98% chance you will not be using a holster. At my gun club (Scottsdale Gun Club [full auto avail] ) You may draw from concealment or a OC holster but you must first receive training from a "Range Master"Click image for larger version. 

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    Concealment holster would be a no go, since you will not be at home, and thus can't conceal. And aside from that, it is very unlikely that holster work will be conducted in a class, especially if it isn't just a couple people who are already skilled, and even then, probably not. (CPL classes don't really teach much in the range portion)

    I am envious of your being able to go to the Scottsdale Gun Club, FreeInAZ. Aside from having my favorite indoor stationary range, they have the only gun shop I'd ever seen that had for sale every mass production weapon I've ever owned. To say they put Michigan gun shops to shame is a masterpiece of understatement.
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    While I was at Action Impact (The place I refuse to go to get my CPL because the guy is an idiot) he was teaching a CPL class and had them all draw from their holsters and fire two shots into a close range target.

    So I figured my question was valid.

    Apparently this guy is a bigger idiot than I thought.

    I did just call the range I'm going to (Which I probably should have done first) and they told me we will not be drawing so my lowride is fine.

    P.s FreeInAZ I'm coming to visit and you're taking me to the gun club. K thanksss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michigander View Post
    Concealment holster would be a no go, since you will not be at home, and thus can't conceal. And aside from that, it is very unlikely that holster work will be conducted in a class, especially if it isn't just a couple people who are already skilled, and even then, probably not. (CPL classes don't really teach much in the range portion)

    I am envious of your being able to go to the Scottsdale Gun Club, FreeInAZ. Aside from having my favorite indoor stationary range, they have the only gun shop I'd ever seen that had for sale every mass production weapon I've ever owned. To say they put Michigan gun shops to shame is a masterpiece of understatement.
    Sorry Michigander,

    I did not mean to rub your face in the mediocrity of MI gun ranges/shops. My bad

    PS - I'm a member, so I get free passes for friends
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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeInAZ View Post

    PS - I'm a member, so I get free passes for friends
    And this is why my next roadtrip/vacation will be to Arizona!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeTheGreek View Post
    And this is why my next roadtrip/vacation will be to Arizona!
    To be warned Mike, it is one hell of a long drive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeInAZ View Post
    To be warned Mike, it is one hell of a long drive.
    Oh come on...it's only 33 hours!

    Wait...yeah, maybe I'll fly. I have a bunch of friends near Globe so I'll stay for a while. haha.
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    CPL Class...do I need a concealable holster?

    I drove to Southern Texas (Brownsville) by myself in 2 days.
    Call for a cop, call for an ambulance, and call for a pizza. See who shows up first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheQ View Post
    I drove to Southern Texas (Brownsville) by myself in 2 days.
    That's only a 27 hour drive. Meaning you got approx 21 hours of sleep/rest/food on the way, which is around normal time for a drive of that length.

    Still farther than I'd ever like to drive.
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    CPL Class...do I need a concealable holster?

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeTheGreek View Post
    That's only a 27 hour drive. Meaning you got approx 21 hours of sleep/rest/food on the way, which is around normal time for a drive of that length.

    Still farther than I'd ever like to drive.
    Drove 3A-10P

    8AM-8P
    Call for a cop, call for an ambulance, and call for a pizza. See who shows up first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheQ View Post
    Drove 3A-10P

    8AM-8P
    You sir are a machine.

    And how much coffee did you drink during your drive?
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    CPL Class...do I need a concealable holster?

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeTheGreek View Post
    You sir are a machine.

    And how much coffee did you drink during your drive?
    I don't drink coffee. Most caffeinated drink I ever drink is coke.

    I drove my Solstice, which is exhilarating enough.
    Call for a cop, call for an ambulance, and call for a pizza. See who shows up first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheQ View Post
    I drove to Southern Texas (Brownsville) by myself in 2 days.
    I drove from Phoenix to Royal Oak in 54 hours, taking the southern route to minimize the likelihood of snow. This means about a 41 hour drive, and I did the speed limit and less the whole way.

    I took short nap breaks when I started hallucinating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeInAZ View Post
    Uhm even coming from you Mike, no question is dumb

    Almost all ranges DO NOT allow you to draw & fire from a holster. (Nothing like never :
    Maybe simunition if you wish to practice in your backyard ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeTheGreek View Post
    it may be a REALLY dumb question.
    As I tell my students "there are no dumb questions...only dumb people that ask questions."

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeTheGreek View Post
    my lowride is fine.
    I didn't need a holster of any kind for my CPL class and the shooting portion of mine went waaay above and beyond what is required by law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeInAZ View Post
    Uhm even coming from you Mike, no question is dumb

    Almost all ranges DO NOT allow you to draw & fire from a holster. (Nothing like never being able to practice real world scenario's ). So the short answer is it's a 98% chance you will not be using a holster. At my gun club (Scottsdale Gun Club [full auto avail] ) You may draw from concealment or a OC holster but you must first receive training from a "Range Master"Click image for larger version. 

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    maybe there should be a mikethegreek questions sticky. your post count shouldn't equal your started threads count... just sayin'
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeTheGreek View Post
    I have my CPL class tomorrow at 830. I have a question for anyone who knows, and it may be a REALLY dumb question.

    Do I need a concealable holster for the class?

    I have a few holster, but my main one is my iTac Lowride, which keeps my gun secure and holstered about 6-7 inches below my belt, making OC extremely easy no matter what I'm wearing, even my coats.

    I'm not exactly sure if they make you draw from conceal or if theyll mind a lowride holster, figure I'd ask you guys instead of bringing multiple ones. I'd rather do my training in my iTac but if I have to, I'll use my high galco holster.
    if you conceal at a range you will be committing a felony
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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeInAZ View Post
    To be warned Mike, it is one hell of a long drive.
    i've made the trip by car 3 times
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeTheGreek View Post

    I did just call the range I'm going to (Which I probably should have done first)
    YES! YOU SHOULD HAVE CALLED THE RANGE! Sorry dude, but this forum is not your personal question/answer message board. Will the mods please edit this stuff out. I'd like to get back to OC discussion and not have to sift through 10 MikeTheGreek threads before I find something useful to read and contribute to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scot623 View Post
    YES! YOU SHOULD HAVE CALLED THE RANGE! Sorry dude, but this forum is not your personal question/answer message board. Will the mods please edit this stuff out. I'd like to get back to OC discussion and not have to sift through 10 MikeTheGreek threads before I find something useful to read and contribute to.
    however you could just skip threads started by MikeTheGreek
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raggs View Post
    however you could just skip threads started by MikeTheGreek
    That is a valid suggestion. Is there a way to automatically skip the first page of threads?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scot623 View Post
    That is a valid suggestion. Is there a way to automatically skip the first page of threads?
    If we get any more stickies yes.
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