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    Banks and Credit Unions...

    What are the laws pertaining them for carry? I was under the impression, it was ok, providing no signage, corporate policy. My boss swears if it's federally insured, it's off limits. I was going to carry to my credit union, Bronco Federal Credit Union this week, to replace my credit card.

    Do I have this information wrong?



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    Quote Originally Posted by mpguy View Post
    What are the laws pertaining them for carry? I was under the impression, it was ok, providing no signage, corporate policy. My boss swears if it's federally insured, it's off limits. I was going to carry to my credit union, Bronco Federal Credit Union this week, to replace my credit card.

    Do I have this information wrong?



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    Your boss is sadly mistaken.
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    Re: Banks and Credit Unions...

    This is what i thought. He does come from cali...I'm not sure of the laws on banks there.

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    Last edited by mpguy; 12-03-2012 at 06:57 PM.

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    Re: Banks and Credit Unions...

    http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/sh...ad.php?t=99635

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymouse View Post
    http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/sh...ad.php?t=99635

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    I saw that, and I'm looking to print out the VCDL paper as soon as I remember where to look for it. Checking VCDL website now.

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    Re: Banks and Credit Unions...

    Quote Originally Posted by mpguy View Post
    I saw that, and I'm looking to print out the VCDL paper as soon as I remember where to look for it. Checking VCDL website now.
    You could order Ed's cards. They are pretty awesome as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mpguy View Post
    This is what i thought. He does come from cali...I'm not sure of the laws on banks there.

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    Tell your boss this is Virginia. We eat Bar B Q, not Tofu and can carry in banks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    We eat Bar B Q
    Having grown up in Texas I take exception to this!!!

    Meat in bar b q sauce ain't bar b q.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    Tell your boss this is Virginia. We eat Bar B Q.....
    Well, some of you do
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymouse View Post
    You could order Ed's cards. They are pretty awesome as well.
    Yes, you could.. and thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ProShooter View Post
    Well, some of you do
    Lol.

    I found it, the tri-folder. I think I'll invite him along this week during lunch, pending me working the nerve up to do it. This weekend, I went to break a $100 bill, and went to Xenith *spelling may be off* bank, while I was in downtown Suffolk. Saw a no gun sign, so trucked across the parking lot to Precision Pawn, and broke it there. Enjoyed window shoping the hand guns, and rifles they had. I had set in stone, at the first of the year I was getting a bolt action rifle. I'd like to pick up a 9mm semi auto if i can, just can't decide on which. Decisions sucks some times...

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    I've heard banks mentioned as "no carry" places several times. They seem to get unjustly lumped into that category frequently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ed View Post
    Yes, you could.. and thanks!
    I saw your card. I'll see what I can do in the next few weeks to get a mail out, with a few bucks to donate to the cause.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    Tell your boss this is Virginia. We eat Bar B Q, not Tofu and can carry in banks!
    I like this.
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    Federally insured does not equal Federal building.
    Your car insured by Geiko does not make your car owned by the Geiko corporation.

    However, like any private business, can have their own "now gun/weapons" policy.
    Any representative of a privately owned business may ask you to leave (trespassing if you don't).

    IANAL, this is general rules, always check specifics within your state's laws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Sega View Post
    Federally insured does not equal Federal building.
    Your car insured by Geiko does not make your car owned by the Geiko corporation.

    However, like any private business, can have their own "now gun/weapons" policy.
    Any representative of a privately owned business may ask you to leave (trespassing if you don't).

    IANAL, this is general rules, always check specifics within your state's laws.
    That's not true. The employee has to have been given you the authority to ask you to leave in order to prove trespassing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mpguy View Post
    What are the laws pertaining them for carry? I was under the impression, it was ok, providing no signage, corporate policy. My boss swears if it's federally insured, it's off limits. I was going to carry to my credit union, Bronco Federal Credit Union this week, to replace my credit card.

    Do I have this information wrong?
    A good policy is to request the asserter to provide the statute. I know that's a little tricky politically with a boss and maybe not the workable solution. But, its not your job to confirm another's assertion. If someone claims to know the law, just ask them how they came by that knowledge. Usually it is some form of "I heard it from..."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen View Post
    A good policy is to request the asserter to provide the statute. I know that's a little tricky politically with a boss and maybe not the workable solution. But, its not your job to confirm another's assertion. If someone claims to know the law, just ask them how they came by that knowledge. Usually it is some form of "I heard it from..."
    In this case, I'm betting his boss will say something about the bank being Federal property, due to being Federally insured. Which we all know is wrong. The car insurance analogy mentioned a few posts back usually works to fix that assumption.

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    Re: Banks and Credit Unions...

    I went in today, to reissue my card, with digital recorder going. Nothing was said, and if it was noticed, *I'm sure of one lady that saw* nothing came of it. Will test the waters a few more weeks.

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    Unfortunately, this is one persistent "wives tale" that seems to never die. The Virginia references, while good for BBQ vs. tofu, really don't help here, since the assertion is that it is a federal issue, not a state issue.

    My first CHP class instructor quite adamantly insisted that this was the case as well. This was way back when I was much less informed than I am now, so I didn't know any better to correct him. I've run into other similar situations with people who think they know more than they do. One particularly annoying security desk clerk at a local hospital insisted that it was against the law to carry a gun in a hospital. I politely suggested that she seek a refund from her "security officer training class", which for some reason was not at all well received... I was polite, if somewhat sarcastic, and suggested that they try to find the law, if they were so sure it existed, a task which I would bet my bottom dollar was never even attempted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFred View Post

    My first CHP class instructor quite adamantly insisted that this was the case as well.
    Thank goodness your second CHP class instructor was more knowledgeable than the first!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ProShooter View Post
    Thank goodness your second CHP class instructor was more knowledgeable than the first!
    Oh CHP instructors do all sorts of things. I heard of one up North that was advertising outta state certificates but didn't fulfill all the requirements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    Oh CHP instructors do all sorts of things. I heard of one up North that was advertising outta state certificates but didn't fulfill all the requirements.
    The operative word is "was" - Yes? No?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    The operative word is "was" - Yes? No?
    Yes..."Was"

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    Yes..."Was"
    Hillary's housemate would appreciate the point of that exchange.
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