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    Go to Support SB 59

    Anyone here planing to go the committee hearing for SB 59? Supposed to be at 9 A.M. I am thinking I will make the trip out to Lansing.

    ETA: This will be Tuesday December 11th in the Anderson building.
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    "No state shall convert a liberty to a privilege, license it, and charge a fee therefor.- Murdock vs Pennsylvania 319 US 105

    ...If the state converts a right into a privelege, the citizen can ignore the license and fee and engage in the right... with impunity.
    - Shuttleworth vs City of Birmingham, Alabama 317 US 262

    Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no legislation which would abrogate them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xmanhockey7 View Post
    Anyone here planing to go the committee hearing for SB 59? Supposed to be at 9 A.M. I am thinking I will make the trip out to Lansing.
    Date?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Bear View Post
    Date?
    Thank you. Added it to the original post.
    "No state shall convert a liberty to a privilege, license it, and charge a fee therefor.- Murdock vs Pennsylvania 319 US 105

    ...If the state converts a right into a privelege, the citizen can ignore the license and fee and engage in the right... with impunity.
    - Shuttleworth vs City of Birmingham, Alabama 317 US 262

    Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no legislation which would abrogate them.
    - Miranda vs Arizona 384 US 436

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    Quote Originally Posted by xmanhockey7 View Post
    Anyone here planing to go the committee hearing for SB 59? Supposed to be at 9 A.M. I am thinking I will make the trip out to Lansing.

    ETA: This will be Tuesday December 11th I'm the Anderson building.
    Well I'm the Empire State Building. Top that
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    Looks like it will now be Wednesday at 8:30AM. I don't think I'll be able to go now But I'll do my best to make it.

    http://www.house.mi.gov/publiccommit...adcastKey=3198
    "No state shall convert a liberty to a privilege, license it, and charge a fee therefor.- Murdock vs Pennsylvania 319 US 105

    ...If the state converts a right into a privelege, the citizen can ignore the license and fee and engage in the right... with impunity.
    - Shuttleworth vs City of Birmingham, Alabama 317 US 262

    Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no legislation which would abrogate them.
    - Miranda vs Arizona 384 US 436

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    Go to Support SB 59

    Don't make any plans to attend yet -- stay tuned!
    Call for a cop, call for an ambulance, and call for a pizza. See who shows up first.

    I am not a lawyer (merely an omnipotent member of a continuum). The contents of this post are not a substitute for sound legal advice from a licensed attorney in your jurisdiction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheQ View Post
    Don't make any plans to attend yet -- stay tuned!
    I shall. Keep me updated this bill keeps me on the edge of my seat!!!!
    "No state shall convert a liberty to a privilege, license it, and charge a fee therefor.- Murdock vs Pennsylvania 319 US 105

    ...If the state converts a right into a privelege, the citizen can ignore the license and fee and engage in the right... with impunity.
    - Shuttleworth vs City of Birmingham, Alabama 317 US 262

    Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no legislation which would abrogate them.
    - Miranda vs Arizona 384 US 436

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheQ View Post
    Don't make any plans to attend yet -- stay tuned!
    oh god, what now?!?
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    Update from mcrgo

    With massive civil disobedience (aka orchestrated mob riots) expected at the Capitol tomorrow, the House Natural Resources Committee has delayed hearing SB 59 until the tear gas clears on Wednesday at 8:30 a.m. However, Senator Green and Representative Foster have reached an agreement on the content of the bill with no substantial changes from the version that passed the Senate.
    Last edited by Big Gay Al; 12-11-2012 at 04:03 AM. Reason: spelling correction "senate" to senator
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    Quote Originally Posted by detroit_fan View Post
    With massive civil disobedience (aka orchestrated mob riots) expected at the Capitol tomorrow, the House Natural Resources Committee has delayed hearing SB 59 until the tear gas clears on Wednesday at 8:30 a.m. However, Senate Green and Representative Foster have reached an agreement on the content of the bill with no substantial changes from the version that passed the Senate.
    OC probably got thrown under the bus again. Or they decided to allow no carry in PFZs period. Oh and we're going to keep the gun boards and if they take a long time to issue the permit, too bad! Of course I'm speculating on something I have no clue about. Seems to be a pattern.
    "No state shall convert a liberty to a privilege, license it, and charge a fee therefor.- Murdock vs Pennsylvania 319 US 105

    ...If the state converts a right into a privelege, the citizen can ignore the license and fee and engage in the right... with impunity.
    - Shuttleworth vs City of Birmingham, Alabama 317 US 262

    Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no legislation which would abrogate them.
    - Miranda vs Arizona 384 US 436

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    Who knows what these bills have transformed into

    From MCRGO-

    Things have been changing so rapidly on HB 5225 and SB 59 over the past few days that we only report on the confirmed status of the bills as they change rather than the details. Regardless, the Snyder administration has been the biggest challenge on both bills. MSP doesn't support HB 5225 but it actually does support the elimination of pistol free zones. Its position is different than the administration's.
    If guns cause crime, all mine are defective- Ted Nugent

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    Wonder why the MSP favors elimination of PFZs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by detroit_fan View Post
    With massive civil disobedience (aka orchestrated mob riots) expected at the Capitol tomorrow
    M-DOT has installed electric signs along I-496 showing the "Right To Work Union Buses" where to get off the highway.
    "If we lose freedom here, there's no place to escape to."
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