I'm 18 and look young to some, underage carrying is a RAS. I agree a right exercised is a right lost, but simply put being why do I not want to give them ID? What are they going to do with it? Follow me home? Break into my house? They just want to know who I am and I'm okay with them knowing that I'm not a criminal and do not have a warrant out for my arrest. This is simply my opinion on the subject, you do not have to give ID if you do not wish unless you are being detained.
I'm 18 and look young to some, underage carrying is a RAS.
Underage carrying is a
crime*. The fact that you may look underage would be the
RAS. At this point in your life I could maybe see going ahead and producing ID. But you gave this advice to another young OC'er, and to my knowledge we have no idea if he looks like he is 12 or if he looks like he is 55. What works best for you may not for him.
I agree a right exercised is a right lost
I know what you meant. :lol:
but simply put being why do I not want to give them ID?
Views on this vary quite a bit. You seem to have no problem with it and that's fine. Me on the other hand, I love all of my rights and am not willing to give up a single one of them. Even the ones that seem like they are no big deal. One problem with this is "Officer Friendly" ask for your ID and you produce it with no questions ask. Then 30 minutes later "Officer Friendly" ask for my ID and I refuse. Now I'm going to have the ever living hell harassed out of me because Officer Friendly is use to getting his way. The standard has been set.
What are they going to do with it? Follow me home? Break into my house?
I believe that for the most part LEO asking for ID is just a knee jerk reaction. I wonder if half the time if they even really pay attention to the info on your ID. So no, they are probably not going to kick in
your door or stalk you. I know for a fact that they won't do that to
me because I won't let them know where I live unless they get my info illegally. Producing your ID may be "easier" but it's not our job to make their job easier.
They just want to know who I am and I'm okay with them knowing that I'm not a criminal and do not have a warrant out for my arrest.
I'm not. It's none of their damn business who I am, where I've coming from or where I'm going. I don't care who they are. They can mind their own business like I was doing. But I bet a thousand bucks to a glazed doughnut that if I ask for
their ID and started asking
them questions
they wouldn't answer them. Why should I? You mention them checking for a warrant on you?? They are not going to know if you have a warrant by simply looking at your ID. Checking for a warrant requires your personal information to be "ran through the system." Guess what?? Them doing that is just that much more intrusion into your personal life "just because"...but you gave them permission to do it.
This is simply my opinion on the subject
And my listed responses are simply my opinion. Isn't it great to live in a country that we are not killed for having an opinion (not yet at least
) So please don't take offense to them.
you do not have to give ID if you do not wish unless you are being detained.
Cite please. Keep in mind that being
detained is defined by a person that has a reasonable belief that they can not leave on their own free will. LEO pulling his car in front of your car and not letting you pull out of a parking lot even after telling you that you are free to go is detainment. Even in this scenario you
not required to produce ID. If you are arrested you still
do not have to produce ID. I believe verbally giving your name is all that is required. Some people don't have an ID, period. So if the law doesn't force you to have an ID how can it force you to produce one? The only time that I know of that you are required to produce an ID is if you are doing something that requires a license (driving) or a permit (concealing a deadly weapon).
*unless you fall under the few exceptions listed in KRS 527.100
** All of my listed opinions are assuming that a LAC that has not committed a crime, is not committing a crime or is not about to commit a crime is being harassed by LEO just because "they can."