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    Thread lockup overide, take responsability for your mouth, everyone is listening.

    It is amazing how the second a person, or person's, doesn't like, (where a opinion it is going the mod's lock it up)
    How come ?
    As long as it is a bebate,
    no name calling,
    not threating each other,
    statements, opinions or feeling have a place here,

    Oh & let's not forget PM's that are done on the side,
    saying things that are unexceptable anywhere,to get back at other's, becouse they don't like their opinion.

    Everything you say or type , Can & will be used against you,.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mastiff69 View Post
    It is amazing how the second a person, or person's, doesn't like, (where a opinion it is going the mod's lock it up)
    How come ?
    As long as it is a bebate,
    no name calling,
    not threating each other,
    statements, opinions or feeling have a place here,

    Oh & let's not forget PM's that are done on the side,
    saying things that are unexceptable anywhere,to get back at other's, becouse they don't like their opinion.

    Everything you say or type , Can & will be used against you,.
    Amazing. 10th SB59 thread closed. On top of that the mod personal attacks me by calling me a troll because I expressed my opinion and then LOCKS THE THREAD. Unreal!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikestilly View Post
    the mod personal attacks me by calling me a troll because I expressed my opinion and then LOCKS THE THREAD. Unreal!!
    Stop being a troll?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoiledFrogs View Post
    I think that before a thread should be locked, it must be voted upon by a majority of the moderators.
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    Mode rules

    Boiledfrogs, you may or may not be right & you are intitled to your opionions, (SEE BELOW STATEMENT)

    but I say they can do as they what, without voting on anything period.
    If i am wrong one of the Mod's can chime in ( & prove me wrong)
    & site, document the rules that the Mods are required to abide by.
    If not then they are rule less ! HE HE !

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    TO Boiledfrog I misread your post, & responded to a misread & to that i APOLOGISE I WAS WRONG ! there see i admit when i a wrong ! thanks venator for pointing out my mistake .....
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    Quote Originally Posted by mastiff69 View Post
    Boiledfrogs, you may or may not be right & you are intitled to your opionions,

    but I say they can do as they what, without voting on anything period.
    If i am wrong one of the Mod's can chime in ( & prove me wrong)
    & site, document the rules that the Mods are required to abide by.
    If not then they are rule less ! HE HE !

    PS love ya springer !
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    Appointing MI mods was the worst decision possible for this forum. Not to mention an obvious conflict of interest- some mods are MOC members, so when they close a thread becasue of anti-MOC talk that presents an issue imo. They have a horse in that race. Now, I actually support 59, but when you have a conflict of interest like that it is not good. Not saying they have acted in a biased way, but the potential sure is there.

    Somehow all of the power has been given to a few individuals who close any thread they deem "not worthy", and that is not right. Why do a few select individuals get to determine what deserves to be discussed here? How are mods allowed to close threads that are about 2A issues? If someone breaks a rule, warn that person, and edit the post, but don't close the whole damn thread. How were these mods even selected? Why in the heck do we need so many? I'm fine with banning people who break rules, or editing their posts, but closing several threads a day is getting ridiculous and bordering on censorship.

    We had a member here who would openly promote illegal activities, constantly troll and cause nothing but problems, and the owners of the site basically said "meh, report it if you don't like it". It took a huge show of disgust to get that member removed. Now, simply posting something a mod doesn't like results in closed threads. IS THERE NO MIDDLE GROUND?
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    Why did MI even get their own mods, there's several state forums far more active that don't have their own mods.

    I swear almost half the threads in your forum are locked down. maybe those of you who fear mod retaliation should post your stuff in general discussion or use an unused state forum... like Rhode Island, to do your discussions.

    so much locking here the whole MI sub forum may as well be locked down.

    Now that this thread is being locked... i'm out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    Why did MI even get their own mods, there's several state forums far more active that don't have their own mods.
    I have no idea, but hopefully this train-wreck of an experiment will be ended soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by detroit_fan View Post
    Appointing MI mods was the worst decision possible for this forum. Not to mention an obvious conflict of interest- some mods are MOC members, so when they close a thread becasue of anti-MOC talk that presents an issue imo. They have a horse in that race. Now, I actually support 59, but when you have a conflict of interest like that it is not good. Not saying they have acted in a biased way, but the potential sure is there.

    Somehow all of the power has been given to a few individuals who close any thread they deem "not worthy", and that is not right. Why do a few select individuals get to determine what deserves to be discussed here? How are mods allowed to close threads that are about 2A issues? If someone breaks a rule, warn that person, and edit the post, but don't close the whole damn thread. How were these mods even selected? Why in the heck do we need so many? I'm fine with banning people who break rules, or editing their posts, but closing several threads a day is getting ridiculous and bordering on censorship.

    We had a member here who would openly promote illegal activities, constantly troll and cause nothing but problems, and the owners of the site basically said "meh, report it if you don't like it". It took a huge show of disgust to get that member removed. Now, simply posting something a mod doesn't like results in closed threads. IS THERE NO MIDDLE GROUND?
    I agree with everything you stated above. Oh and btw that person who you refer to above is Pat and he now represents MOC doing open carry seminars. How about them apples?? Truely pathetic!
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    uh Pat is not the person detroit_fan is referring too.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikestilly View Post
    Amazing. 10th SB59 thread closed. On top of that the mod personal attacks me by calling me a troll because I expressed my opinion and then LOCKS THE THREAD. Unreal!!
    Quote Originally Posted by mikestilly View Post
    I agree with everything you stated above. Oh and btw that person who you refer to above is Pat and he now represents MOC doing open carry seminars. How about them apples?? Truely pathetic!
    Perhaps try not being such a troll and people may not acuse you of being one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by autosurgeon View Post
    uh Pat is not the person detroit_fan is referring too.....
    correct
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    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    Why did MI even get their own mods, there's several state forums far more active that don't have their own mods.

    I swear almost half the threads in your forum are locked down. maybe those of you who fear mod retaliation should post your stuff in general discussion or use an unused state forum... like Rhode Island, to do your discussions.

    so much locking here the whole MI sub forum may as well be locked down.

    Now that this thread is being locked... i'm out.
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    Thread lockup overide, take responsability for your mouth, everyone is listening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikestilly View Post
    I agree with everything you stated above. Oh and btw that person who you refer to above is Pat and he now represents MOC doing open carry seminars. How about them apples?? Truely pathetic!
    The only truely pathetic person here is ....mikestilly. I know pat doesnt need me to fight his battles but he does more for OC by noon than you have in years. You know, back before......oh nevermind. What made you leave your own forum and come back to OCDO? Did you get sick of talking to yourself?
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    And IBTL

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    Another pointless thread, locked.

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    I've highlighted the ones that are continuously violated, and causing threads to be locked and posts to be deleted. BTW, SB59 doesn't really affect me, much. Particularly the PFZ part, so your accusations don't ring true.
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