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    Firearms outside the home

    More will follow:

    The Seventh Circuit has rendered a decsion that states in part:
    Read the Chicago Tribune article at this link:

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,7034171.story

    or the actual decison at this link:

    http://gallery.mailchimp.com/1ef541d...emanded_2_.pdf


    We are disinclined to engage in another round of historical
    analysis to determine whether eighteenth-century
    America understood the Second Amendment to include
    a right to bear guns outside the home. The Supreme
    Court has decided that the amendment confers
    a right to bear arms for self-defense, which is as
    important outside the home as inside. The theoretical
    and empirical evidence (which overall is inconclusive)
    is consistent with concluding that a right to
    carry firearms in public may promote self-defense.
    Illinois
    had to provide us with more than merely a rational basis
    for believing that its uniquely sweeping ban is justified
    by an increase in public safety. It has failed to meet
    this burden. The Supreme Court’s interpretation of
    the Second Amendment therefore compels us to reverse
    the decisions in the two cases before us and remand
    them to their respective district courts for the entry
    of dec la ra tions of unconstitutionality and
    permanent injunctions. Nevertheless we order our mandate
    stayed for 180 days to allow the Illinois
    legislature to craft a new gun law that will
    impose reasonable limitations, consistent with the public
    safety and the Second Amendment as interpreted in
    this opinion, on the carrying of guns in public.
    Last edited by Edward Peruta; 12-11-2012 at 03:56 PM.

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    This is great news! It will be interesting to see what the new gun law will be in 180 days - hopefully not too restrictive. One step at a time...
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    Read the combined decison at this link

    Last edited by Edward Peruta; 12-11-2012 at 04:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt. Kabukiman N.Y.P.D. View Post
    This is great news! It will be interesting to see what the new gun law will be in 180 days - hopefully not too restrictive. One step at a time...
    x2!!!
    though I'm sure they'll try to find a way to legally set more restrictions than even NYS currently has for locations carrying is legal as well as factors in issuing permits.

    on a side note, I think it's stupid how NYS nearly requires a person to prove they NEED a gun in order to obtain a permit. I mean come oooooon! of all victims of violence where the victims are non-criminals but rather are responsible law abiding citizens, what percentage of them do you think actually knew in advance they would definitely be a victim of violence? it should be the other way around: if you know you'll be a victim, don't go to that location, or stay away from that person, or do everything you can to avoid that type of situation. the whole point of having a gun for self defense is because you DON'T know if or when you could ever potentially be a victim, but rather to be prepared just in case, because it's usually when you least expect it, in the most awkward of places

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt. Kabukiman N.Y.P.D. View Post
    This is great news! It will be interesting to see what the new gun law will be in 180 days - hopefully not too restrictive. One step at a time...
    I hope they don't make a scheme within 180 days ... then its the wild wild west in the midwest?

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