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    Gun-control advocates say Connecticut massacre could be tipping point .

    Gun-control advocates believe the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School, where semi-automatic weapons were used to gun down 20 small children and six adults, will do what so many other recent mass killings have failed to do: force President Obama and Congress to take action.

    Obama, who has frustrated gun-control advocates with his timid approach to the issue, came under increased pressure this weekend from members of his own party to call for stricter limits on gun buyers.

    “Pressure is mounting,” Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.) said in an interview. “We have an epidemic problem. This is ridiculous. We’ve got to act as a nation. . . . I’m just going to encourage the president to get out there and insist that there needs to be some legislation passed.”


    Gun-control advocates believe the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School, where semi-automatic weapons were used to gun down 20 small children and six adults, will do what so many other recent mass killings have failed to do: force President Obama and Congress to take action.

    Obama, who has frustrated gun-control advocates with his timid approach to the issue, came under increased pressure this weekend from members of his own party to call for stricter limits on gun buyers.

    “Pressure is mounting,” Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.) said in an interview. “We have an epidemic problem. This is ridiculous. We’ve got to act as a nation. . . . I’m just going to encourage the president to get out there and insist that there needs to be some legislation passed.”


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    Friday’s rampage in Newtown, Conn., could be a tipping point in a national debate over gun rights that has faded in recent years. Advocates pointed to three reasons why this shooting may change the climate in Washington in a way that the one at a Colorado movie theater and the attempted assassination of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.) did not.

    The almost unimaginable killing of so many six- and seven-year-olds has sparked an outpouring of public emotion; Obama is on stronger footing to champion gun-control measures now that he has been reelected and will never again face voters; and the National Rifle Association has been weakened after spending millions of dollars backing candidates who lost.

    The scale and frequency of mass shootings has grown so extreme that gun-control advocates believe they now have a strong case to make to enact strict restrictions on automatic weapons. Their challenge, though, will be turning the latest wrenching moment into a winning legislative strategy.

    That, they say, requires presidential leadership.

    Obama, in his statement Friday responding to the Connecticut shooting, sounded angry and resolved as he recounted a string of recent incidents of gun violence.

    “We’re going to have to come together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this, regardless of the politics,” he said. The president made almost the exact same pledge Saturday during his weekly radio address.

    But Obama has not provided any specific proposals, and White House officials would not say what the president meant by “meaningful action.”

    The gun issue would compete for Obama’s attention with his top priorities, such as the ongoing fiscal fight with Congress and his plans to push comprehensive immigration reform early next year.

    In the past, Obama has said he supports reinstating an assault weapons ban and measures to toughen background checks on gun buyers. But his administration has not proposed any new legislation to accomplish those goals.

    The president’s inaction has frustrated gun-control advocates, who say they were newly emboldened following Friday’s shooting.

    “If having dozens of people gunned down in an elementary school doesn’t motivate Washington to do even the easy things they can do, it’s not clear what will,” said Mark Glaze, director of Mayors Against Illegal Guns, a group chaired by New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg (I) that represents 750 mayors across the country.

    Kristen Rand, legislative director for the Violence Policy Center, a gun-control advocacy group, said she senses a change in the political atmosphere. “The general public is reaching the point of being fed up, and I think this will push it over the edge,” she said.

    On Saturday, with the horror in Newtown still fresh, elected officials sounded impassioned calls for immediate action.

    “Congress has held numerous hearings, all kinds of speeches, all kinds of accusations in the Benghazi matter. Let’s see what the Congress does now, and certainly the president will provide the kind of leadership that is necessary,” Philadelphia Mayor Michael Nutter (D) said on MSNBC. “We don’t need any more speeches. We need action.”

    Rep. John B. Larson (D-Conn.) said in a statement Saturday that “to do nothing in the face of continuous assaults on our children is to be complicit in those assaults.”

    “There may not be a single cure-all for the violence in our nation, however we must start the process and begin the deeper and longer conversations that need to take place. Politics be damned,” he said.

    Among the measures that Larson and other Democratic lawmakers have suggested are requiring background checks for all gun sales, closing the terrorist watch-list loopholes, banning high-capacity ammunition magazines and reinstating the assault weapons ban that expired in 2004.

    It is unclear, however, whether any of those laws might have made a difference in the Connecticut shooting.

    Republicans who oppose toughening gun laws, as well as those Democrats who enjoy the backing of the NRA, have been largely silent on the issue since Friday’s shooting. NRA officials have not commented publicly.

    Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers (Wash.), the fourth-ranking House Republican, said Congress should be “careful” about suggesting new gun laws.

    “We need to look at what drives a crazy person to do these kind of actions and make sure that we’re enforcing the laws that are currently on the books. And yes, definitely, we need to do everything possible to make sure that something like this never happens again,” she said in a C-SPAN “Newsmakers” interview taped Friday.

    Any legislative effort could face stiff resistance not only among Republicans but also among some Democrats. Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) has promoted his NRA support, as do many of the senators whose elections in 2006 put Democrats in the majority.

    In July, after the movie theater shooting in Aurora, Colo., Democratic congressional leaders had a hushed response that illustrated how fearful they had become of the NRA’s political clout. At the time, Sen. Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.), who once sponsored the now-lapsed assault weapons ban, acknowledged that there was no political path for gun legislation.

    But now, after the NRA spent more than $11 million attacking Obama and other Democrats only to see most win reelection, there are signals that their fear has ebbed.

    “Perhaps an awful tragedy like this will bring us together so we can do what it takes to prevent this horror from being repeated again,” Schumer said in a statement Friday.

    Ellison, appearing on MSNBC, said Saturday: “We’re not afraid of the NRA. We’re ready to confront them.”

    http://m.washingtonpost.com/politics...532_story.html


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    What these liberals wont talk about is that Connecticut HAS THE STRONGEST GUN LAWS IN THE COUNTRY. He also tried to buy his own firearms and HE WAS DENIED by several gun stores. It proves our point that a sicko will do anything to commit murder no matter what law is on the books.
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    Much of the coverage seems to be glossing over the fact that the weapons used in the crimes were stolen from his mother.

    I fail to see how any gun control laws could ever possibly prevent a maniac(which is what, at this point, the perpetrator appears to be) from stealing the tools he needs/wants to commit their crimes.

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    The anti-gun crowd politicians scream "something must be done" and go ahead and pass new laws that do nothing to address the problem. All of the latest mass shootings have been by people who have severe mental problems that have not been caught by the system. Family members may be aware of these problems but just assume the individual "will just get over it" It is not the weapons that are the cause, it is the individuals using them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogdays View Post
    The anti-gun crowd politicians scream "something must be done" and go ahead and pass new laws that do nothing to address the problem.
    Exactly. They even admit that the "something' will not stop violence.

    "U.S. Rep. John Larson of Connecticut is calling on Congress to ban assault weapons and take other action to reduce gun violence...He says his suggestions won't end gun violence, but that they are a start."
    http://www.wtnh.com/dpp/news/politic...er-gun-control

    If this is just the start, what is the end game? Anyone who actually supports the views of Rep. Larson needs to ask this question, especially if they are a gun owner.

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