Gov. McDonnell Willing to Discuss Allowing Teachers and Others to Carry in Schools

VApatriot · Dec 18, 2012

http://www.wtop.com/610/3162096/Gov-Time-to-talk-arming-school-officials

The governor didn't outright say that he would support allowing legal carrying in schools, but he most certainly didn't reject the idea either.

peter nap · Dec 18, 2012

I'd like to know where he thinks he is going to get the authority to allow it?

T Dubya · Dec 18, 2012

Antis are flooding the Richmond Times Dispatch with comments

Post a comment to combat this lunacy.

http://www.timesdispatch.com/news/s...cle_06eed61d-eea9-5050-a797-8e0987687e85.html

VApatriot · Dec 18, 2012

peter nap said:
I'd like to know where he thinks he is going to get the authority to allow it?

That's probably a wording-choice error on my part. It probably should have said something more along the line of "discuss legalizing carry in schools," which, of course, cannot simply be done by the governor and would have to go through the General Assembly. That's what I get for posting something while studying for final exams at the same time.

mpguy · Dec 18, 2012

peter nap said:
I'd like to know where he thinks he is going to get the authority to allow it?

Same place states have allowed marijuana use? Maybe we are getting to a point some states are getting tired of big brother. I would support this fully. Not having arms in school hasn't worked.

It's our turn.

Of course, this being he does it the right way.

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Old Virginia Joe · Dec 18, 2012

I heard on the radio news tonight a tape of Gov McD saying he has always supported keeping guns 1,000 feet from school, except for LEO . . . . . . Does this mean he is unaware of the automobile container exceptions (allowed within the 1,000 foot buffer)? Does he know what the law currently says?

half_life1052 · Dec 18, 2012

I came late to the party but got in a few good licks.

2a4all · Dec 18, 2012

peter nap said:
I'd like to know where he thinks he is going to get the authority to allow it?

It would appear that [Special] Conservators of the Peace can CC in schools.

Individuals (faculty, staff) so designated could be trained in the proper tactics and protocols to defend a school against an armed attacker/intruder.

wootizzle · Dec 19, 2012

2a4all said:
It would appear that [Special] Conservators of the Peace can CC in schools.

If I remember correctly; they may OC or CC in, or around, any place they're assigned to work.

peter nap · Dec 19, 2012

2a4all said:
It would appear that [Special] Conservators of the Peace can CC in schools.

Individuals (faculty, staff) so designated could be trained in the proper tactics and protocols to defend a school against an armed attacker/intruder.

That's true. They are actually LEO's in a very limited venue but the Governor can't appoint them. That's the Circuit Courts job...unless it's changed drastically in the last few years.

mpguy · Dec 19, 2012

Check out the pilot paper. Theres a front page thing on it.

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keymo · Dec 19, 2012

Harrold Texas

What about the program in Texas? From what I read, sounds like a good place to start.

Wolf_shadow · Dec 19, 2012

mpguy said:
Check out the pilot paper. Theres a front page thing on it.

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http://hamptonroads.com/2012/12/bob-mcdonnell-discusses-arming-school-officials

Not only Teachers and Administrators, all LAC's should be allowed to carry for the students protection.

SouthernBoy · Dec 19, 2012

peter nap said:
I'd like to know where he thinks he is going to get the authority to allow it?

As I understand it, Montana passed a law allowing teachers and administrators to go armed in school and that in their state, the federal law as null and void. I have only read this and know nothing about; whether is true or false. If it is true, then one would have to assume the general assembly here could do the same... though I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.

peter nap · Dec 19, 2012

SouthernBoy said:
As I understand it, Montana passed a law allowing teachers and administrators to go armed in school and that in their state, the federal law as null and void. I have only read this and know nothing about; whether is true or false. If it is true, then one would have to assume the general assembly here could do the same... though I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.

That was really my point SB.
To be honest, I don't much care what McDonnell is saying, he's just running his mouth.
I'm watching to see what Obama who is the real danger, is going to do and I suspect it won't involve Congress...and what bills get introduced here.

I'm going to pull a Phlip and say I don't care what other states do. They have to take care of themselves.

I'm expecting a firestorm here though.

T Dubya · Dec 19, 2012

Fire mission - leave a comment

Call to action, another article in the Richmond Times Dispatch. Usual suspects, usual garbage. Get to work, leave a comment.http://www.timesdispatch.com/news/s...cle_8caab5ea-864c-5902-95cf-ff0e54d80f81.html

Uber_Olafsun · Dec 19, 2012

I am waiting for some type of executive order etc to come out. Who know hat he will try. We had gun grabs during Katrina with a video of a Marine saying they obey orders about doing it. Wonder how many will remember that little oath they swore to uphold.

2a4all · Dec 19, 2012

2a4all said:
It would appear that [Special] Conservators of the Peace can CC in schools.

Individuals (faculty, staff) so designated could be trained in the proper tactics and protocols to defend a school against an armed attacker/intruder.

peter nap said:
That's true. They are actually LEO's in a very limited venue but the Governor can't appoint them. That's the Circuit Courts job...unless it's changed drastically in the last few years.

True enough, but the court appoints them at the request of some local official (e.g. police chief, sheriff, etc.). And this option doesn't need the Governor's approval.

TFred · Dec 19, 2012

The WTOP article has a glaring error. ::gasp:: What a shock!

Directly after a quote from Governor McDonnell, the author begins a new paragraph with this text:

"Currently, laws in Virginia ban anyone from carrying a firearm within 1,000 feet of school grounds. Only police officers are exempt."

They provide a link to § 18.2-282, which is the brandishing code, and which does NOT outlaw carrying a firearm within 1,000 feet of a school. Instead, it does increase the penalty for brandishing within 1,000 feet from a Class 1 misdemeanor to a Class 6 felony.

I would not be surprised if this "error" was intentional.

TFred

paramedic70002 · Dec 19, 2012

2a4all said:
It would appear that [Special] Conservators of the Peace can CC in schools.

Individuals (faculty, staff) so designated could be trained in the proper tactics and protocols to defend a school against an armed attacker/intruder.

The Code of VA is a strange beast. If you read the Code for C.O.P.s they are specifically prohibited from being used in schools. I cannot find any other Code that addresses armed security in schools other than SROs/certified LEOs.

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