2013 State Session

77zach · Dec 19, 2012

http://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bil...mber=Senate&LastAction=&Senator=&SearchQuery=

One mildly anti gun/ anti self defense bill from moron Chris Smith (D-Idiotville). Nothing else yet. If there is to be any OC bill it will go up on the above website in the next few weeks. All people who care about their rights should send letters to their reps demanding OC and the elimination of deadly "gun free zones" aka hunting preserves aka shooting galleries.

77zach · Jan 2, 2013

http://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Calendars/2013/2013_Session_Dates

I say we get neo-conned. Again. After all, look what happened in Oklahoma when they legalized open carry. People having panic attacks and the streets flowing with blood.....911 overwhelmed by man with gun calls. Horrible.

ixtow · Jan 3, 2013

77zach said:
http://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Calendars/2013/2013_Session_Dates

I say we get neo-conned. Again. After all, look what happened in Oklahoma when they legalized open carry. People having panic attacks and the streets flowing with blood.....911 overwhelmed by man with gun calls. Horrible.

Have you even heard from Oklahoma since then? I think they all killed each other in a gigantic wild-west shootout....

77zach · Jan 4, 2013

ixtow said:
Have you even heard from Oklahoma since then? I think they all killed each other in a gigantic wild-west shootout....

I hear it's like "The Walking Dead" out there. Wild animals have taken over most cities and towns.

ixtow · Jan 6, 2013

77zach said:
I hear it's like "The Walking Dead" out there. Wild animals have taken over most cities and towns.

77zach · Jan 10, 2013

http://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2013/0174

Some of you may remember Mr. Pitts from the OC effort in 2011. I believed he helped our efforts then. Unfortunately, it wasn't enough to overcome the anti-freedom sentiment.

77zach · Jan 10, 2013

Senator Evers has not yet introduced any bills. If there is going to be any attempt at OC (and there should be), I suggest waiting until the last possible moment to introduce it. There are a couple reasons for doing that. I also think that if there were a few neocon senators mildly against it, I could convince them to support it. That's my completely inexperienced advice. Oh well, what are you gonna do.

Clearly, if there is to be any OC legislation, senator Abruzzo should be the one to introduce it. The reasons are obvious.

ixtow · Jan 10, 2013

77zach said:
Senator Evers has not yet introduced any bills. If there is going to be any attempt at OC (and there should be), I suggest waiting until the last possible moment to introduce it. There are a couple reasons for doing that. I also think that if there were a few neocon senators mildly against it, I could convince them to support it. That's my completely inexperienced advice. Oh well, what are you gonna do.

Clearly, if there is to be any OC legislation, senator Abruzzo should be the one to introduce it. The reasons are obvious.

It would be an interesting thing to see if the Republicans want to show a little Republicanism now that they're losing hard to Democrats. Maybe stepping up and doing what they were supposed to 2 years ago will help them hold on to their seats? The way it's going now, they won't be in office, and rightly so. If they're going to act like Democrats, they may as well be replaced by Democrats. Bogdanoff got nailed hard for what she did to us.

If you play defense all the time, eventually they wear you down and you lose. There hasn't been an attempt to take back any form of gun rights in my lifetime. Just sit and wait to defend the next attack. Guaranteed losing strategy.

77zach · Jan 11, 2013

Wild speculation if there were to be a bill:

If you count every republican except Dean and Diaz la Portilla as a yea; and every Democrat except Abruzzo a No, you get 25 yea votes.

rvrctyrngr · Jan 11, 2013

77zach said:
Senator Evers has not yet introduced any bills. If there is going to be any attempt at OC (and there should be), I suggest waiting until the last possible moment to introduce it. There are a couple reasons for doing that. I also think that if there were a few neocon senators mildly against it, I could convince them to support it. That's my completely inexperienced advice. Oh well, what are you gonna do.

Clearly, if there is to be any OC legislation, senator Abruzzo should be the one to introduce it. The reasons are obvious.

Abruzzo is a Representative, not a Senator.

77zach · Jan 11, 2013

rvrctyrngr said:
Abruzzo is a Representative, not a Senator.

www.flsenate.gov/Senators/s25

rvrctyrngr · Jan 12, 2013

77zach said:
www.flsenate.gov/Senators/s25

Need to update their website, then.

http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/sections/representatives/details.aspx?MemberId=4458&SessionId=70

77zach · Jan 12, 2013

rvrctyrngr said:
Need to update their website, then.

http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/sections/representatives/details.aspx?MemberId=4458&SessionId=70

Since you weren't aware he got a seat I'm assuming there isn't going to be a bill, or Fl carry doesn't know? Nothing out of the NRA either on anything they have planned. The silence is strange....or wise. Unified sportsmen of Fl doesn't even have a website where you can contribute. That a cursory search turned up anyway.

rvrctyrngr · Jan 13, 2013

77zach said:
Since you weren't aware he got a seat I'm assuming there isn't going to be a bill, or Fl carry doesn't know? Nothing out of the NRA either on anything they have planned. The silence is strange....or wise. Unified sportsmen of Fl doesn't even have a website where you can contribute. That a cursory search turned up anyway.

Don't take what Abruzzo did as 'pro-gun'. He had a separate agenda. We would not seek him as a sponsor.

77zach · Jan 13, 2013

rvrctyrngr said:
Don't take what Abruzzo did as 'pro-gun'. He had a separate agenda. We would not seek him as a sponsor.

I did not know that. The consensus at the time was that he was genuine.

77zach · Jan 17, 2013

Another anti rights bill filed

http://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2013/0362/BillText/Filed/PDF

ixtow · Jan 17, 2013

It's sad that nobody paid attention during the over 20 years I was talking about the rise of the anti-gun neo-con fake republicans. I was a crazy tinfoil-hat conspiracy theorist to say such things...

For all the things I've been right about, you'd think someone would start paying attention instead of still insisting that I'm crazy...

It really is possible that I'm the only one who hears the music. I've presented so much proof of it yet I'm still told that I'm the crazy one... This is a nation of crazy too arrogant and stupid to face it. I'm saddened to keep being right about it.

randian · Jan 17, 2013

77zach said:
http://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2013/0362/BillText/Filed/PDF

So we have to wait until somebody is already bleeding or dead before firing? I'm sure the victims will appreciate this law.

77zach · Jan 17, 2013

randian said:
So we have to wait until somebody is already bleeding or dead before firing? I'm sure the victims will appreciate this law.

These black Democrats that they send up from South Florida hate all freedoms people enjoy (except to abort black babies) and some seem mentally retarded. Their bills won't pass, but they file them anyway. I check the space hoping for an OC bill. The Hammer needs to get this done while we have a pro OC governor.

77zach · Jan 17, 2013

ixtow said:
It's sad that nobody paid attention during the over 20 years I was talking about the rise of the anti-gun neo-con fake republicans. I was a crazy tinfoil-hat conspiracy theorist to say such things...

For all the things I've been right about, you'd think someone would start paying attention instead of still insisting that I'm crazy...

I'm going to try and get elected to the legislature in 6-10 years. I'll be in my 30s then, my how time flies. It will be purely in a Ron Paul-ish capacity. They're not going to like me very much, but at least it would make for not so boring committee meetings.

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