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    NY Newspaper Posts Gun Owners' Names

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    NY Newspaper Posts Gun Owners' Names

    One more reason to never allow the slippery slope to even begin.

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    A couple newspapers in VA did that.

    It basically tells criminals where to burgle guns.

    Slime.

    Hopefully the citizens in NY will recognize the nasty, hateful attitude of the editorial staff, and picket all the advertisers of that paper.
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    Start posting gov't officials and newspaper managers names and addresses .. good for the goose, good for the gander.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    Start posting gov't officials and newspaper managers names and addresses .. good for the goose, good for the gander.
    Well a blogger is fighting fire with fire and has released all the editors personal info and sat view of her home. I think it is a great idea, she should sweat at every little noise she hears at night. The stress she put guns owners through, I hope she enjoys that karma.
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    But so many conservatives and gun owners over the years on various forums I've hung out on have always said, "... if you've done nothing wrong, you've got nothing to hide."

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    http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/sh...93#post1869893 this thread is the same release of info, altho different circumstances

    from post #481
    Yesterday police revealed a Sydney man was tied up, blindfolded and shot during a robbery six weeks ago in which 22 legally owned handguns - including several Glocks - were stolen from safes at his home.However, Detective Superintendent Ken Finch, head of the firearms and organised crime squad said yesterday: "We have no evidence to suggest there is any link to the registry and these robberies."

    <http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/blunder-spreads-firearms-details/story-e6freuy9-1226446217031>
    "Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the people's liberty teeth (and) keystone... the rifle and the pistol are equally indispensable... more than 99% of them by their silence indicate that they are in safe and sane hands. The very atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference .When firearms go, all goes, we need them every hour." -- George Washington

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keylock View Post
    But so many conservatives and gun owners over the years on various forums I've hung out on have always said, "... if you've done nothing wrong, you've got nothing to hide."
    These so called conservatives don't understand rights and don't understand that it isn't about having something to hide.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sudden valley gunner View Post
    These so called conservatives don't understand rights and don't understand that it isn't about having something to hide.
    I've attempted over the years to convince them of this, especially with such instruments of privacy infringements as the Patriot Act, NDAA, etc. Few are willing to pull their heads out of their hindquarters and make an attempt to understand the natural right to privacy (or any other natural right for that matter).

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    Is this even legal? I understand that it can all be accessed via FOIA, but I'm guessing (and hoping) that there are laws against publishing personal information.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MainelyGlock View Post
    Is this even legal? I understand that it can all be accessed via FOIA, but I'm guessing (and hoping) that there are laws against publishing personal information.
    Don't know about the legality. But public, is public.

    Of course this can always be avoided by simply having Constitutional Carry and zero paperwork. I know, I know... that's to radical for most people who only have good intentions when it comes to allowing people to carry firearms. It's not as though this is a slippery slope or something similiar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MainelyGlock
    Is this even legal? ... laws against publishing personal information.
    No, the law dealing with this license specifically says that name & address are public info.
    The address, phone, & google maps house picture of the writer is being circulated on Facebook.
    I just hope that people aren't stupid about it - no threats, don't call at unreasonable hours.

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    An interesting development that I just heard on CNN - that a lawyer blogged the names and addresses of the editor and writers responsible for disseminating the gun owners' info. If true, this sounds like it could get ugly. I frankly don't see anything wrong with being labeled a gun owner. But many are in the closet about it and likely for good cause (e.g., Chris' statement above.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by TigerLily View Post
    Liked the point you made that if you're not on the list... you're basically unarmed and potential prey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zack991 View Post
    Well a blogger is fighting fire with fire and has released all the editors personal info and sat view of her home. I think it is a great idea, she should sweat at every little noise she hears at night. The stress she put guns owners through, I hope she enjoys that karma.

    http://www.christopherfountain.wordp...-for-the-goose

    An excellent idea! Wish I'd thought of that.

    If any of you haven't, have a look at the bloger's site - It's worth it!

    A little research seems to suggest the unwanted publicity is having an effect on the idiots; a "facebook" file has been shut down.

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    The parent company of The Journal News is Gannett, located in Mc Lean, VA.
    http://www.gannett.com/article/99999...RE04/110714008

    Being in the news business in Virginia when the Roanoke Times published gun owner's names in VA, is there any question that Gannett and the Journal News didn't know that the Roanoke Times had to take down their list after outrage of them putting Domestic Violence victims, parole officers, crime witnesses, ect lives in danger?

    I think it's fair to say the Roanoke Times is probably where they got the idea.

    If it can be shown that they knew about the Roanoke times, I would think there is a strong lawsuit here. The first amendment does not extend to promoting violence.

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    http://techcrunch.com/2012/12/26/jou...6pLid%3D249935

    Here are the addresses for all the journalists that posted about this. Enjoy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keylock View Post
    But so many conservatives and gun owners over the years on various forums I've hung out on have always said, "... if you've done nothing wrong, you've got nothing to hide."
    I can't tell you how many times I have heard and read that over the years and what always comes to mind when is Martin Niemöller's famous piece of prose;


    First they came for the communists,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

    Then they came for the socialists,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a socialist.

    Then they came for the trade unionists,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

    Then they came for the jews,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

    Then they came for the catholics,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a catholic.

    Then they came for me,
    and there was no one left to speak for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TigerLily View Post
    Awesome!

    "...the only people who should fear my gun are cops and criminals..." I love it!

    You touched on a recent small essay/letter I wrote that if we let others decide what our needs are we are nothing but slaves.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

    U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernBoy View Post
    I can't tell you how many times I have heard and read that over the years and what always comes to mind when is Martin Niemöller's famous piece of prose;


    First they came for the communists,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

    Then they came for the socialists,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a socialist.

    Then they came for the trade unionists,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

    Then they came for the jews,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

    Then they came for the catholics,
    and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a catholic.

    Then they came for me,
    and there was no one left to speak for me.
    This needs to be repeated often....

    I can't figure out if it is nationalistic pride, hubris, lunacy that people think somehow allowing similar control by our government will somehow have different results than what has been proven to happen historically time and time again.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

    U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
    "Because of what appears to be a lawful command on the surface, many citizens, because
    of their respect for what only appears to be a law, are cunningly coerced into waiving their
    rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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    Quote Originally Posted by sudden valley gunner View Post
    This needs to be repeated often....

    I can't figure out if it is nationalistic pride, hubris, lunacy that people think somehow allowing similar control by our government will somehow have different results than what has been proven to happen historically time and time again.
    Yep. Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is, what else, insanity.
    In the final seconds of your life, just before your killer is about to dispatch you to that great eternal darkness, what would you rather have in your hand? A cell phone or a gun?

    Si vis pacem, para bellum.

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    They are doubling down, publishing an additional entire county of gun owners names.

    This is so wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoVaJohn View Post
    They are doubling down, publishing an additional entire county of gun owners names.

    This is so wrong.
    could this be considered grounds to repeal the 1st amendment? it would use the same logic as they are using against us to repeal the 2nd.

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    NY Newspaper Posts Gun Owners' Names

    Sounds like exactly why gun registration must be fought.

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