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    Remark by the V.P.


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    How about a Fair Use excerpt or something.
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    Didn't this need a BARF alert attached to it.
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    Remarks by the Vice President at a Meeting With Law Enforcement Leaders

    Eisenhower Executive Office Building, Room 208

    1:17 P.M. EST

    THE VICE PRESIDENT: Let me start by thanking -- I look around this table, and Ive worked with -- excluding the Cabinet and administration officials, Ive worked some of you for a long, long time. All the police organizations represented here have been my friends and allies for over 35 years.

    And the President asked me to convene this meeting with you, and well be talking to other stakeholders as well because we have to have a comprehensive way in which to respond to the mass murder of our children that we saw in Connecticut, but that's not the only --

    I want to talk to you all about -- in the way weve always talked in the past. We sat down. We were writing the crime bill years ago, and everybody thought that was a -- just an exercise to reach out and pretend we cared about what you thought -- you, the police organizations, were the organizations that came forward and not only dealt with the punishment-incarceration side of it, you were the ones who came up with the ideas about community policing. You came up with the ideas about reaching out, having drug courts. You were the -- you know better than anyone what is needed out there. And what I think the public has learned about you is you have a much more holistic view of how to deal with violence on our streets and in our country that youre ever given credit for.

    I know you all. I know you well. And so youre the first group with whom, when the President gave me this charge, along with some of our Cabinet colleagues here, you're the first group that I wanted to speak with.

    So what Id like to do is -- the President is absolutely committed to keeping his promise that we will act, and we will act in a way that is designed -- even if, as he says, we can only save one life, we have to take action. And there are a number of things you know because Ive spoken with you all for so many years and continue to have a relationship over the past four years that there are some things we can immediately do.

    And were going to need your help. We see no reason why the assault weapons ban, quite frankly, you guys helped me write in the original crime bill. It passed the Senate then didn't get past the House. And then we went back at it again with Dianne Feinsteins leadership, she convinced people to put it back in the bill. Weve worked on everything from cop-killer bullets to the type of weapons that should be off the street and a whole lot else. So that's what I want to talk to you about today. I want to hear your views because for anything to get done, were going to need your advocacy. Were going to need your advocacy with law enforcement organizations in this country.

    And so with that, Id like to disinvite the press out of the room. (Laughter.) Were going to have a frank discussion, and as these women and men in uniform around this table know, we are never not frank with one another. So Im anxious to get to a discussion.

    END

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    I wish someone had bugged that room, or worn a recorder.
    Get rid of the people who will tell your employers what you're talking about?!?!

    the President is absolutely committed to keeping his promise that we will act, and we will act in a way that is designed - even if, as he says, we can only save one life, we have to take action
    They keep saying that - even if something will only save one life, they'll do it.
    Then they turn around & go back on their word. Over & over.

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    So in other words lets sit down and talk about a citizens 2A rights, but we don't want the press to know what we're talking about. Watch out for a back door under the radar regulation coming from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms. The will come in and classify certain ammunition as "explosive" and restrict it to state and local law enforcement. Hollow points are out too.
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    Remark by the V.P.

    Quote Originally Posted by MKEgal View Post
    ...They keep saying that - even if something will only save one life, they'll do it.
    Then they turn around & go back on their word. Over & over.
    Actually, the keep doing things that they THINK will save even one life--at the expense of Liberty. I wish they would STOP saving even one life.

    They have no way of saying how many lives their restrictiveness is saving--or costing!

    I hold the GFSZ responsible for the loss of dozens of lives. If they want to save even one life (or even dozens), they should allow US to protect our children, not require us to depend on the late-arriving police.


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    be a real shame if they all had to admit the economic recovery was 'revived' by the massive sales of guns and ammo. bet the administration will take credit for that, while they try to wittle away at the rights of the law abiding citizens who helped drive those sales. let's not punish the criminals, lets punish the citizens!

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