xD.45Service
Regular Member
Copied from my post at ofcc
My friend and I were heading to Subway in St.Paris for a bite and we noticed a St.Paris police officer sitting at the bank. Mindful of the situation I monitored my speed and stayed within the limits, when we were half way through town the officer decided to pull out and catch up, as we crossed the tracks going out of town he flipped his lights on and I pulled over.
The officer came up to the window and of course the first thing I said is "Sir, I have my concealed carry and my weapon with me" He responds with "Ok, where is it?" I responded "It's under the seat". He then replies "Is it in a holster?" I said yes. He said keep your hands in plain sight and step outside the vehicle. At this time my friend had the chance to notify him of his CCW and weapon. The officer acknowledged and told him to remain seated with his hands up. As I got out of the car I kicked my holster and knocked my handgun out of it. This irritated the officer, he said you just lied to me, you said it was in the holster.. After this he says I am transporting the firearm illegally and I am being detained, He grabbed my left arm and handcuffed me against my jeep. I asked why I was being arrested and the officer said "You're not under arrest you are being detained" He proceeded to walk me over to his car and I informed him that I have hip problems and am physically incapable of getting into his car.
He opened his door and I TRIED to get in.. Didn't work. My friend got out of the truck with his hands in plain sight and Informed the officer of the change in the law making it legal to transport the handgun on the floorboard. He continued to tell me to sit down, as I was sitting on the door jamb incapable of getting fully into the car. My friend said to him there was no reason to have me detained and the officer opted to keep me in cuffs and have me stand next to his car for it seemed like around 10 minutes.. in 30 degree weather
The officer called in backup which happened to be the Champaign County Game Warden. Once the Game Warden arrived the officer freed my hands. He then told my Friend to get back in the truck. My friend responded with Sir, I'm going to stand here and observe" The officer said "No, get back in the truck". Three more times my friend said he was just going to observe. The officer then replied with "Get back in the truck or I will arrest you" My friend replied "You can't arrest me for observing" the officer walked over and grabbed his arm and said "Get back in the truck or you are under arrest" My buddy declined and the officer proceeded to put him in handcuffs and took him to the back of the car. In violation of orc 2921.31 "Obstruction of official business" He was simply standing next to the Jeep out of the way, about 15 feet from the officer.
So after that, I was told to get back in my truck and wait there, I did so. After around 15 minutes the officer came back up to my window and said "Well, I'm not going to take him to jail, your buddy is going to leave with you and he will receive a summons". So he let my friend out of the cruiser and then walked back up and said bring my proof of insurance in to him within a couple days and proceeded to walk away. I said "Sir, My firearm?" He replied with "It's under your seat in the holster".
The same thing he handcuffed me for...
Not once during the stop did he even inform me as to why he pulled me over. I received no citation, no warning, nothing.. My friend had his firearm returned in the condition it was in when taken.
Lawsuit?
My friend and I were heading to Subway in St.Paris for a bite and we noticed a St.Paris police officer sitting at the bank. Mindful of the situation I monitored my speed and stayed within the limits, when we were half way through town the officer decided to pull out and catch up, as we crossed the tracks going out of town he flipped his lights on and I pulled over.
The officer came up to the window and of course the first thing I said is "Sir, I have my concealed carry and my weapon with me" He responds with "Ok, where is it?" I responded "It's under the seat". He then replies "Is it in a holster?" I said yes. He said keep your hands in plain sight and step outside the vehicle. At this time my friend had the chance to notify him of his CCW and weapon. The officer acknowledged and told him to remain seated with his hands up. As I got out of the car I kicked my holster and knocked my handgun out of it. This irritated the officer, he said you just lied to me, you said it was in the holster.. After this he says I am transporting the firearm illegally and I am being detained, He grabbed my left arm and handcuffed me against my jeep. I asked why I was being arrested and the officer said "You're not under arrest you are being detained" He proceeded to walk me over to his car and I informed him that I have hip problems and am physically incapable of getting into his car.
He opened his door and I TRIED to get in.. Didn't work. My friend got out of the truck with his hands in plain sight and Informed the officer of the change in the law making it legal to transport the handgun on the floorboard. He continued to tell me to sit down, as I was sitting on the door jamb incapable of getting fully into the car. My friend said to him there was no reason to have me detained and the officer opted to keep me in cuffs and have me stand next to his car for it seemed like around 10 minutes.. in 30 degree weather
The officer called in backup which happened to be the Champaign County Game Warden. Once the Game Warden arrived the officer freed my hands. He then told my Friend to get back in the truck. My friend responded with Sir, I'm going to stand here and observe" The officer said "No, get back in the truck". Three more times my friend said he was just going to observe. The officer then replied with "Get back in the truck or I will arrest you" My friend replied "You can't arrest me for observing" the officer walked over and grabbed his arm and said "Get back in the truck or you are under arrest" My buddy declined and the officer proceeded to put him in handcuffs and took him to the back of the car. In violation of orc 2921.31 "Obstruction of official business" He was simply standing next to the Jeep out of the way, about 15 feet from the officer.
So after that, I was told to get back in my truck and wait there, I did so. After around 15 minutes the officer came back up to my window and said "Well, I'm not going to take him to jail, your buddy is going to leave with you and he will receive a summons". So he let my friend out of the cruiser and then walked back up and said bring my proof of insurance in to him within a couple days and proceeded to walk away. I said "Sir, My firearm?" He replied with "It's under your seat in the holster".
The same thing he handcuffed me for...
Not once during the stop did he even inform me as to why he pulled me over. I received no citation, no warning, nothing.. My friend had his firearm returned in the condition it was in when taken.
Lawsuit?