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    Legal proof for ability to open carry in PFZ's with CPL

    I apologize if this has been posted elsewhere, but after searching this site, I couldn't find what I was looking for. Hopefully this makes it a little easier for people to find if they have the same problem that I did.
    2002 Michigan OAG no. 7113
    http://www.ag.state.mi.us/opinion/da...0s/op10188.htm

    If anyone has any other resource for the legality of OC in PFZ's with CPL, please post it. I am going to put in my application for a CPL on Friday, and am trying to cover all bases and have all info and resources saved to my phone.

    Edit: I was also told on Friday by my CPL class instructor that PFZ's applied to open carry as well (which I understood from this site to be false), so I am hoping to get all supporting documentation and provide it to him as well so he can provide the students with accurate, verifiable information.
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    You cannot easily prove that somthing is lawful unless you have a court case specifically and clearly holding so - very rare. You can prove that somthing is lawful by finding a court case or approved jury instruction that very clearly lays out the law, elements of offense, implied and written into statute or common law cases.

    But we know that teh legislature just tried to make open carry unlawful in these zones, e.g., schools, by a bill - and that bill would have legalized concealed carry there - but the governor vetoed it. That bill story sort of paints a clear picture of the law in Michigan right now - if you have a CPL, you can OPEN CARRY only in many places that concealed carry is banned, e.g., schools.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoiledFrogs View Post
    If it is not illegal by statute, then it is legal by default.

    Here's a link OP.

    http://www.michigan.gov/documents/ms...2_336854_7.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Gay Al View Post
    Yeah, this is NOT the Soviet Union. If there is no law saying you can't do it, then you can do it.
    yes, the soviet union had much more friendly airport security
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    Quote Originally Posted by smellslikemichigan View Post
    yes, the soviet union had much more friendly airport security
    Yeah, that's very true. They just asked to see your papers. It was the KGB that did the shake downs.
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    Alright, thanks for the replies everyone. Just trying to anticipate any and all potential problems

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