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    Question about Green Card and Gun Ownership in WA

    Hello all.

    I've lurked this forum on and off for a while, but ive recently become very interested in gun ownership. I tried to search for this answer (im sure it has been asked before) but couldn't find anything.

    I've been a Green Card holder (lawful permanent resident) in WA for over 5 years now, and i cannot track down for sure if i can own, carry and conceal a pistol. I have no history with the police, no arrests etc. My wife has her concealed weapons permit (and has for a long time). I have a valid WA drivers license.

    I would like to know if its:

    A) legal for me to own a firearm in the home
    B) legal for me to open carry in public
    C) am eligible to apply for a concealed permit.

    I spoke to a local officer who said he wasn't 100% sure on the changes to the law, that i should read the RCW. They are pretty confusing (i had my neighbor look it over who is a paralegal, and she couldn't tell me for sure). I know not so long back it was illegal for Aliens to own without a hunting license (and they stopped giving alien hunting licenses out).

    If anyone can help point me in the right direction i would be grateful. I have a few gun shows coming up locally and am quite disturbed with the recent "attacks" on the 2nd amendment.

    Thank you.

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    Short answer re conditions you define - Yes you can.

    Straight from the horse's mouth - alien legal requirements for a permit:

    http://www.dol.wa.gov/business/firearms/faalienreq.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil View Post
    Hello all.

    I would like to know if its:

    A) legal for me to own a firearm in the home
    B) legal for me to open carry in public
    C) am eligible to apply for a concealed permit.

    Thank you.
    Yes, yes and yes.

    Thanks to some active members of this forum, Washington changed its Alien Firearms laws. Permanent Residents no longer require an Alien Firearms License.

    I'm a permanent resident. The week they changed the law, I applied for my CPL. Where the form asked if I was a citizen, I wrote Permanent Resident and my green card number.
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    Citations for above

    http://www.dol.wa.gov/business/firearms/faalienfaq.html

    Who doesn’t need an alien firearms license?
    A permanent resident alien (immigrant alien) with a permanent resident card (green card).
    A citizen of Canada or a non-immigrant alien not residing in Washington, who is hunting or participating in trade shows or shooting events while visiting or vacationing here.

    http://www.dol.wa.gov/business/firea...oncealreq.html

    How to get your license: Concealed pistol license Requirements
    You must meet all of the following requirements to get a concealed pistol license (RCW 9.41.070):
    Be 21 years of age or older at time of application.
    Be a United States citizen or a permanent resident alien with permanent resident card (green card).
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    http://www.dol.wa.gov/business/firearms/faalienfaq.html

    "Who doesn’t need an alien firearms license?
    A permanent resident alien (immigrant alien) with a permanent resident card (green card).
    A citizen of Canada or a non-immigrant alien not residing in Washington, who is hunting or participating in trade shows or shooting events while visiting or vacationing here."

    http://www.dol.wa.gov/business/firea...oncealfaq.html

    It looks like you just need to apply for a CPL

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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyMike View Post
    Yes, yes and yes.

    Thanks to some active members of this forum, Washington changed its Alien Firearms laws. Permanent Residents no longer require an Alien Firearms License.

    I'm a permanent resident. The week they changed the law, I applied for my CPL. Where the form asked if I was a citizen, I wrote Permanent Resident and my green card number.
    I remember reading that some members here overturned something, i just couldn't narrow it down.

    You all basically just confirmed what i thought. Thank you.

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    When it comes to firearms, you green card is as good as being a Citizen. I was naturalized back in 1970...some things were different back then.

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    File for your CPL, get a holster, wear a weapon. It will be as easy as that.

    And welcome to OCDO
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    - And another "yes" with confirmation... My wife is from Tokyo Japan and has her green-card + CPL + pistol. It was super easy, just apply and it comes in the mail.
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    Welcome to the forum.

    May I ask what part of the state you are in?
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sudden valley gunner View Post
    Welcome to the forum.

    May I ask what part of the state you are in?
    Port angeles area. Originally from the UK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil View Post
    Port angeles area. Originally from the UK.
    There are some fine OC memebers and meet ups in your area, I recommend attending one. OC is not a requirement.

    We have lots of Canadians and lately lots of South Africans in my area, being close to the border.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

    U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
    "Because of what appears to be a lawful command on the surface, many citizens, because
    of their respect for what only appears to be a law, are cunningly coerced into waiving their
    rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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    Question?

    I am a non-immigrant and have obtained the firearms legally in California. I am planning to move to Washington state and have read that for a non-immigrant to own firearms in Washington state I need to have Alien firearm license first. Now I am not sure how I can get the alien firearms license without becoming a resident of Washington state . Does it mean before I get to Washington state, I have to sell my firearms in California?

    Any help on this would be awesome.

    -Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raj View Post
    I am a non-immigrant and have obtained the firearms legally in California. I am planning to move to Washington state and have read that for a non-immigrant to own firearms in Washington state I need to have Alien firearm license first. Now I am not sure how I can get the alien firearms license without becoming a resident of Washington state . Does it mean before I get to Washington state, I have to sell my firearms in California?

    Any help on this would be awesome.

    -Thanks
    Rajan
    Confusion??? If you are not an immigrant, than you are a US citizen? Or do you have a green card? Please clarify.
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    Quote Originally Posted by golddigger14s View Post
    Confusion??? If you are not an immigrant, than you are a US citizen? Or do you have a green card? Please clarify.
    Is it possible this person is a foriegn national here on a nonimmigrant visa so he is not a US citizen nor is he a resident alien so he would not have a "green card"?
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