Assault weapons belong on the battlefield?

hermannr said:

How about try this one: http://www.khou.com/news/crime/Burglary-suspect-shot-by-15-year-old-son-of-deputy-97430719.html

Please note...it states the 15 year old used an Assault RIFLE, and the BG had three wounds? Breitebart has this online too...but they say it was an AR15....Maybe not...this is Texas, and this kids dad is in LE anyway.

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assault-style weapon Any
semiautomatic pistol, rifle or
shotgun originally designed for
military or police use with a large
ammunition capacity. Also,
firearms that feature two or more
accessories such as a detachable
magazine, folding or telescopic
stock, silencer, pistol grip, bayonet mount or a device to suppress
the flash emitted while shooting
in the dark.

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clip A metal container for cartridges, inserted in certain types
of firearms.

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magazine The chamber on a
rifle or pistol from which cartridges are fed.

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Citizen said:

Assault rifle is the term; assault weapons is a term invented by anti-gunners to slop negative emotions from machine guns over onto lots of other semi-automatic firearms. If you use the term assault weapons, you are playing into the anti-gunners' hands by letting them define the argument.

Regarding assault rifles, they were highly regulated before they were even invented. The anti-machine gun regulations date from the 1930's; the first assault rifle, the Sturmghewer, was invented by the Germans in 1944 or so. Mikhail Kalashnikov created his in 1947 after deciding it would be good for his country to have one. And, Eugene Stoner invented the AR/M16 in the mid-1950's or so.

If anybody gives you an opening, just look amused, and off-handedly twist the argument back by redefining the argument without saying you are doing so and say, "Oh, assault rifles were illegal before they were even invented."

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gogodawgs said:

Here is one huge issue: The AP Style guide that reporters use, it is just plain wrong. (You will need to scroll down or search for the 'weapons' section. http://alumni.imsa.edu/org/hadron/ap.pdf

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gogodawgs said:

Here is one huge issue: The AP Style guide that reporters use, it is just plain wrong. (You will need to scroll down or search for the 'weapons' section. http://alumni.imsa.edu/org/hadron/ap.pdf

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hermannr said:

Ah yes, but in this particular case the term used was "RIFLE", which would, the the term was used correctly, I might just believe it was, it could have easily been a 3 shot burst M16A2...because....the parent was a LEO> and, it would be proper for a properly discharge M16A2 to fire 3 rounds with one trigger pull.

Adult Bad Guy was admitted to hospital with three wounds...the teen BG was not wounded....

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Metalhead47 said:

(signature line) It is very wise not take a watermelon lightly.

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jt59 said:

So, here is a slightly different question.... Having been in numerous conversations with some folks, I have often gotten the question "who needs an assault weapon"...I have gotten to answering these questions, with a question...but don't really know if it's true or if I just think it is....

My answer: Why do police swat teams need to have select fire assault rifles?

Have I been leading people astray? I know it really brings them up short when they think about who they might need to use it on....

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EMNofSeattle said:

I don't even answer the question. It's a trap and a shoddy one at that, ask why we need to ban them and then argue from there. You "need" absolutely nothing other then food, air, water, and shelter. So don't even engage that question, ask them why new laws should be passed and then argue those points

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jt59 said:

So, here is a slightly different question.... Having been in numerous conversations with some folks, I have often gotten the question "who needs an assault weapon"...I have gotten to answering these questions, with a question...but don't really know if it's true or if I just think it is....

My answer: Why do police swat teams need to have select fire assault rifles?

Have I been leading people astray? I know it really brings them up short when they think about who they might need to use it on....

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Citizen said:

Oh, I never take a watermelon lightly. I always take them in the quietest, sneakiest, most surreptitious way I can.





(I read too much Mark Twain.)

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EMNofSeattle said:

I don't even answer the question. It's a trap and a shoddy one at that, ask why we need to ban them and then argue from there. You "need" absolutely nothing other then food, air, water, and shelter. So don't even engage that question, ask them why new laws should be passed and then argue those points

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jt59 said:

Well, I should have clarified, these are people that I know...uneducated maybe, curious, buying into the hype in some cases...not always anti, but willing to talk about it....

The house insurance, why do you lock your car when it's in a prkgl lot, do you have a home alarm on your house, etc. etc....doesn't always resonate with them....they actually think that this is enough, effective and will auto-dial 911...

I answered my own question on the question of police/swat with auto fire capability....yes, many, many do have it. During this current debate on gun control and rights, it's still my best response to make someone sit back and think for a minute about "why" would a police force need to have auto fire weaponry....it's not for bank robbers and car thieves....

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