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S.115 Constitutional Carry

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SECTION 20. Right to keep and bear arms; armies; military power subordinate to civil authority; how soldiers quartered.

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. As, in times of peace, armies are dangerous to liberty, they shall not be maintained without the consent of the General Assembly. The military power of the State shall always be held in subordination to the civil authority and be governed by it. No soldier shall in time of peace be quartered in any house without the consent of the owner nor in time of war but in the manner prescribed by law. (1970 (56) 2684; 1971 (57) 315.)

http://www.scstatehouse.gov/scconstitution/a01.php
A mere reference to the above would have been followed by a question to be considered. Who amongst the learned panel before this assembly of the citizenry define the above as permitting the state government to "regulate" a right that all law abiding South Carolinians are born with?

10 out of 28 is not bad. Especially when the anti crowd were likely fewer in number.

SECTION 25 Hunting and fishing.

The traditions of hunting and fishing are valuable parts of the state's heritage, important for conservation, and a protected means of managing nonthreatened wildlife. The citizens of this State have the right to hunt, fish, and harvest wildlife traditionally pursued, subject to laws and regulations promoting sound wildlife conservation and management as prescribed by the General Assembly. Nothing in this section shall be construed to abrogate any private property rights, existing state laws or regulations, or the state's sovereignty over its natural resources.
Don't forget this little gem of a right way down at the bottom of the page and how "regulating guns" will impact this right also.

Thanks, John, for keeping the displaced informed and up to date.
 

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As previously notified, S. 115 has been scheduled for a subcommittee meeting on Wednesday, March 20, 2013, at 11:00 a.m., in room 105 of the Gressette Building. The subcommittee is expecting a large audience and the meeting room has limited seating capacity. Due to other meetings taking place at the same time, the subcommittee will not be able to provide an overflow room. As a result, the subcommittee has decided to broadcast the meeting live via the internet.

To watch the broadcast:

1. Go to www.scstatehouse.gov.
2. Locate the “Senate Meeting Schedule” on the right side of the screen.
3. Scroll down to the 11:00 a.m. time period and locate the “Judiciary Subcommittee on S. 115”.
4. Click on the “Live Broadcast” link.

Once the meeting is over, everyone will be able to view the meeting online at a later date once our legislative website team has time to reformat the video recording. Once reformatted, it will be found through the following steps:

1. Go to www.scstatehouse.gov.
2. Locate the “Archives” link on the left side of the screen in blue.
3. Locate and click on the “Committee Video Archives”.
4. Locate the recording for the Wednesday, March 20 recording at 11:00 a.m. of the Subcommittee on S.115 on the right side of the screen. Simply click on the title and it will begin playing on the left side of the screen.

Our legislative website office will get the video up as soon as possible.

Thank you,

Mae Wilson
 

lombax54

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Anyone know of any progress on this bill for 2014? Like will is come out of subcommittee and maybe get a vote?
 
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Bill allowing guns in the open, without permits, likely doomed

http://www.thestate.com/2014/02/17/3273818/bill-allowing-guns-in-the-open.html

"State Sen. John Scott, D-Richland, said he fears Bright’s bill would put more of a burden on police officers, who would have to determine whether people carrying guns openly in public are criminals. “The public-safety person doesn’t really know what to do, whether or not they’re in danger, or whether or not they’re approaching a regular citizen carrying a gun.”
Carrying a gun does not provide RAS of criminal activity any more than wearing a hat does + criminals do not OC.


“When you reach for that gun, you invoke somebody else’s right to protect themselves,” he said. “I foresee a lot of problems with that.”
OCing a gun doesn't authorize anyone to "reach" for a gun w/o cause.

More of the OK Corral, blood-in-the-streets, fear mongering - doesn't happen, ignores facts.

The SC governor has her head in the right place - can't say that for some of the legislators, apparently they "feel" better if they cannot see the gun.
 
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Correct on all accounts Grapshot. Sen Scott has a history of disregarding reality and replacing it with his own. He has said, at least twice in the well that I've heard, "I don't like guns" (or gaaaans as he calls them). He doesn't want you carrying them anywhere, anytime.

His MO for gun bills is that he will support anything that makes it more cumbersone, expensive, or generally annoying to own guns regardless of the real impact of that legislation. Any opportunity to hear himself speak cannot be passed up, and if he needs to make some stuff up, he does.

I actually heard him speak at length one day about being in a bar somewhere, and seeing a guy with a "shotgun in his leg" (shotgaaaan in his leeeg). Imagine the effort this criminal had to go through to get a recess carved out of his leg, big enough to fit a shotgun into. Sen Scott has a very vivid imagination.
 
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