Armed with a potato gun I assume...
Someone open carrying "piggybacked" on a scout tour of the Capitol building and went into the chambers and looked and legislators' papers and and took pictures of some of them.
Before this incident the man had attended an ACLU "know your rights" training event. He put the training to use when approached by security and he told security that if he was not under arrest or being detained that he was not answering any questions.
Favorite quote from the article Senate President Pro Tem Brent Hill said: “To think that somebody is bold enough to have followed these children around with a sidearm in plain sight — who is also bold enough to go through trash cans, take pictures of representatives’ desks and shuffle their papers — all of that created a great deal of concern.”
Armed with a potato gun I assume...
Interesting that most of the comments were not too critical.
I think I know the guy. He's very knowledgeable on state and local laws. Nice guy.
Much-a-do about nothing in my opinion.
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JK IDAHO I share your opinion! I seen the vid of the incident and am embarrassed that a fellow oc'er would act the way he did in the vid!
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He wasn't searching through private documents here people, he was searching through documents that concern his representation in the Idaho General Assembly. If we want to walk into the chambers and scan the documents that OUR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES have in OUR CHAMBERS then we should have every right to do so! They are OUR employees people, and this MUST be remembered! What is the difference in a CEO of a PRIVATE company being able to read business related emails sent from his employees or being able to look through papers on his employees' desks? These are OUR employees people, and WE have the RIGHT to know what they are doing and how they are spending OUR time!
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"I never in my life seen a Kentuckian without a gun..."-Andrew Jackson
"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined."-Patrick Henry; speaking of protecting the rights of an armed citizenry.
Perhaps as you are working as an Intern you might be able to get a quote from some of the legislators. Or, better yet, have them come here directly to share their views.
Maybe a good person to start with would be Marv Hagedorn.
P.S. I do not OC at the Capitol. I do when I am there on my own time, but since (especially after this) the guards tend to hassle you, I don't do it when I am working for someone else. Plus it is hard to OC with a suit coat. Can't wait for my Maine CHP to come in though.
This "he's my representative thing" is ridiculous to an extreme in this context.
I'm a bit disappointed that the intern doesn't OC. While I understand the hassles better than most of daily OC, when you work there and are within the law it would be a benefit to the 2A if you did OC. The security people would question you a few times but word would go around that you are not breaking any rules or regs and they would adjust and accept your carry. Tourists who question it with security would be told it is legal and not a problem. These are things that we say we believe in, not just think are okay when it is convenient. Of course, this assumes that you carry safely - secure, no retention issues, not bumping into things, not hindrance in your job tasks.
I am also a bit confused about why you are getting a Maine CHP rather than an Idaho one. Are you a student who has residence in another state?
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"Yes, he didn't go through desks, but he could have."
The fact remains that he didn't. Just like thousands of others that didn't. He could have run over someone with his car, but, he didn't. He could have gone to a theater and shot people, but, he didn't.
"Second, you should probably know that many of the legislators keep guns locked in desks. I personally would all say they are perfectly secure. For some reason they all seem to have an aversion to regularly carrying a gun around, but they want them handy."
Sorry, I just have a difficult time with this. If I go to a public library and put my gun in a locked drawer in an area open to the public then leave to come back the next day. Is it really secure?
I'm ok if it was during session and they were close by or even reasonably close.
Lets look at other video of other people. I'm willing to bet that others have done the same thing. In my opinion, had he NOT been carrying the entire issue would never have been brought up. Why should he be treated differently?
Blaming the Legislators for leaving papers out is just like blaming the rape victim for the rape! Extreme comparison? Absolutely, but it is still ACCURATE!
RIGHTS don't exist without RESPONSIBILITY!
If one is not willing to stand for his rights, he doesn't have any Rights.
I will strive to stand for the rights of ANY person, even those folks with whom I disagree!
As said by SVG--- "I am not anti-COP, I am PRO-Citizen" and I'll add, PRO-Constitution.
If the above makes me a RADICAL or EXTREME--- So be it!
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Although we disagree on many of the points here, we will just have to agree to disagree. You all have great points and Yes, I agree we have to be on our BEST behavior as open carriers.
As such, Hope to see you all at the OC dinner at the Fuddruckers Rest. on the 20th!