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    Oak Harbor gun ban debate at council meeting becomes national news, SAF warns city of

    I saw this on Facebook.

    http://www.king5.com/news/politics/O...189843391.html

    The gun debate is expected to lead to a packed city council meeting in Oak Harbor Tuesday as the council considers repealing a city ordinance that bans guns at city parks and marinas.

    Gun rights groups are calling on people to turn out because of what happened at the last council meeting when the ban came up. That meeting snowballed into a gun control issue between a disabled military veteran, Lucas Yonkman, and city councilman Rick Almberg. The confrontation was posted on YouTube.
    I read it. I saw the video it refers to. Which one of you was that by the way?
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    Pre meeting is streaming live now. OC is in view from the camera.

    http://media.oakharbor.org/CityCouncil.asx

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    It must be over because nothings there.

    What'd I miss?
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    Nevermind. Someone is asking council members to resign. It was a firefox issue.

    Is he wearing a black rifle? The caption is covering whatever's hangin from his black sling ... oh yes he is .. nice applause too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharkey View Post
    It must be over because nothings there.

    What'd I miss?
    Its still going. The video can be choppy, guessing lots of people watching.
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    Any updates? My tablet won't let me view the video stream.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxx.jakk.xxx View Post
    Any updates? My tablet won't let me view the video stream.
    Been 5 Pro and 2 Anti talk during public comment. First 2 or 3 were really good Pro. The 2 anti's that talked were the same ones to talk in the previous meeting.
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    Some polite, articulate pro 2A speeches. Also, been a couple of anti gunners, but using emotion versus facts.

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    GoGo is up now.

    Last edited by slapmonkay; 02-05-2013 at 09:51 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slapmonkay View Post
    GoGo is up now.
    Have they tried to pass any motions to remove armed individual and did the antis keep any of the pro 2a people out by taking the space?
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxx.jakk.xxx View Post
    Have they tried to pass any motions to remove armed individual and did the antis keep any of the pro 2a people out by taking the space?
    No but they (same council member) are trying to having signs removed from the chambers.
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    The sign can stay says legal council and mayor
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    Quote Originally Posted by slapmonkay View Post
    No but they (same council member) are trying to having signs removed from the chambers.
    Like pro/ anti signs being held by the people? So he's against 2 rights, 1 and 2?
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    Man I love this. Great meeting for a town I don't live in.
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    1A is upheld.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xxx.jakk.xxx View Post
    Like pro/ anti signs being held by the people? So he's against 2 rights, 1 and 2?
    Yes, 'Political' based signs.
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    Gun talk is over, video plays fine now. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharkey View Post
    Gun talk is over, video plays fine now. LOL
    They still have not got to the topic that brought everyone there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by badkarma View Post
    They still have not got to the topic that brought everyone there.
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    The ordinance is up now.
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    Council Member Bob Severns introduced a motion, regarding the ordinance. Emergency ordinance modification to come into compliance to take effect immediately. The proposal is an Emergency ordinance to take effect ASAP.

    Legal Council is advising the proposal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slapmonkay View Post
    Council Member Bob Severns introduced a motion, regarding the ordinance. Emergency ordinance modification to come into compliance to take effect immediately. The proposal is an Emergency ordinance to take effect ASAP.

    Legal Council is advising the proposal.
    Did it pass or will the be being sued? Lol
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    Just now Unanimously, Passed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by badkarma View Post
    They still have not got to the topic that brought everyone there.
    Sorry, I couldn't tell with the stuttering like it was 1990 dial up.
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