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    You poor ba$terds

    Well it looks like your dear leaders feel the need to outdo New York.

    Story on Yahoo: http://news.yahoo.com/calif-seeks-ad...220030130.html

    One small FUQ: "Those buying ammunition would have to pay a fee and undergo an initial background check by the state Department of Justice, similar to what is required now before buyers can purchase a weapon. "
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    Wink

    When my family and I chose to move southwest - we stopped at the southwest coast of the free United States in our mind: Arizona!

    Not sure what the huckleberry hound is wrong with the folks in CA (Communist America) but man, I wish they would stop it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeInAZ View Post
    When my family and I chose to move southwest - we stopped at the southwest coast of the free United States in our mind: Arizona!

    Not sure what the huckleberry hound is wrong with the folks in CA (Communist America) but man, I wish they would stop it!
    A former governor of California, when asked about a particularly strange group in that state, replied, "California has an excellent climate for growing fruits and nuts!"

    It seems his statement is especially true concerning nuts and, for some odd reason, most of them get elected to public office!!
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    I feel sorry for you guys in Cali. I hope I NEVER get stationed out there. I am sure it is nice out there but I don't think I can handle all of the liberalism. If yall wanna come south I am sure there is some room. Just leave the Democrats there. Haha.

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    From an article on TheTruthAboutGuns.com

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    A press conference just wrapped up in California where the Democrats (who have an overwhelming majority in the state) unveiled their latest gun control agenda. And since the Democratic majority is so strong, these aren’t proposals — it’s a preview of things to come. According to one person who was watching the press conference, the following new restrictions on personal liberties will be coming to the most “liberal” state in the union . . .

    • Possession of hollow point bullets and similar assault bullets a felony.

    • Must register and report ammo purchases. Only purchase max 500 rounds.

    • 10 round magazine limit

    • ALL magazines must be fixed to the gun (can not be removed without the use of a tool)

    • 100% prohibition of all magazines greater than 10 rounds. All previous grandfathered magazines become illegal. Felony if you keep one.

    • Changing definition of shotgun revolving cylinder — Basically only single shot shotguns will remain legal.

    • Bullet Buttons will become illegal — All AR and AK style rifles that are currently equipped with them will be designated Assault Weapons. Felony to possess.

    • All gun owners now must be licensed like drivers.

    • All gun owners must carry gun liability insurance

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    I've never heard of an Assault Bullet before...

    Of course, it is still early in the year, things could change.

    Things do not look good...
    Sorry to see what's happening there.

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    Re: You poor ba$terds

    This doesn't sound good.. That fire will spread quickly if it's not put out soon I think.

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    Sounds like a LOT of money will be spent in courts in the near future.
    If something is wrong for ONE person to do to another, it is still wrong if a BILLION people do it.

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    Longtime liberal plan, turn all citizens into felons, take all guns from felons.
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    I can find no reference to an assault bullet anywhere. This must be either a california specific word or something he just made up.
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    Given the last couple days of police shootings in CA, they need to include law enforcement in any and all of their nutcase gun restrictions.
    If something is wrong for ONE person to do to another, it is still wrong if a BILLION people do it.

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    So criminals are now going to be required to carry gun liability insurance or be cited for non-compliance?

    IANAL but if they are thinking that they will be filing insurance claims for "gun liability" won't that increase the number of people suing each other for damages related to firerms usage? Specifically, I am thinking the when you have something like New York's LE's shooting those innocent bystanders it's going to be a whol new ballgame for litigation now.

    No detachable magazines for hunting rifles?

    I love California, it makes the rest of the US look sane.

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    California: Where they find Criminals synonymous with Citizen!
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    I pose this question; Do you likewise feel sorry for Revere and Hawes who rode to warn of the advancing British troops? Or the men who mustered on Lexington Green?

    While you contemplate this, consider that what happens in California and New York is not contained there, that you are not in such protected isolation behind other state boundaries as to be untouchable. We are only the front lines of the war over the second amendment. If you want to lend us your support instead of your pity, it would be far more appreciated.

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    Lightbulb Our enemies are all too happy to use our $ against us!

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    Point taken. I would like to make a friendly suggestion: consider using another company other than Amazon. They recently showed where they stand on RKBA issues when they gave $30,000 to a gun buy back program in Seattle. This is similar to using the Brady's campaign website to collect members for the NRA and giving them a portion of the membership fees the new members pay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeInAZ View Post
    @Con3

    Point taken. I would like to make a friendly suggestion: consider using another company other than Amazon. They recently showed where they stand on RKBA issues when they gave $30,000 to a gun buy back program in Seattle. This is similar to using the Brady's campaign website to collect members for the NRA and giving them a portion of the membership fees the new members pay.

    http://www.komonews.com/news/local/A...186051842.html
    Its really not my decision to make, and it should be considered that this click through program has netted more than $70,000 for CGF to advance California gun rights since it was initiated last year. So, if a gun owner does use Amazon, perhaps they would feel a little less guilty by using the CGF link, and offset Amazon's contributions to anti-gun programs.
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    You know, you guys could take a stand as some in NY are doing. Beyond that, well you got a "looney lefty" cop causing all kinds of mischief for the abusive totalitarian police state. Just imagine what 10,000s of Dorners would do.

    Just saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ca Patriot View Post
    There are some people on this board who have urgerd others to write letters or call on their state reps or the govenor to not support gun legislation.

    Those people dont realize California politicians are so far gone its pointless.
    I think the answer for CA residents is how a couple counties handled unconstitutional gun laws in Illinois for some time. Two counties the prosecutors openly refused to prosecute those laws against law abiding citizens. In actuality more than just two counties did things this way, effectively nullifying the laws. As long as the laws are not mandates for the county prosecutors these pockets of freedom could exist in CA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkingWolf View Post
    I think the answer for CA residents is how a couple counties handled unconstitutional gun laws in Illinois for some time.
    Some for over twenty years ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ca Patriot View Post
    to move
    Not everybody can or want to move. I wonder in some of the conservative counties if the prosecutors don't prosecute cases of law abiding citizens exercising their rights. I worked in Illinois for some time, and yes we as police ignored the conceal carry laws for decent people, but then that was many moons ago. The conceal carry statutes were also ignored here until the conceal carry permission law was passed. Things have changed a lot for police all over the country though. Less of them are receptive to the community now, and more jack booted to the government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ca Patriot View Post
    to move
    None of our objectives can be advanced by a retreat to territories not in dispute.

    The front lines of the war over the second amendment are New York, California, Maryland, Illinois, and New Jersey. What ever victory we have will be won here... not in Montana, Idaho, Wyoming, Utah, Virginia, New Hampshire, or Vermont. Those that live in states already deemed 'free' have an obligation to their brothers in places like Califrornia and New York... to put their support that is not required in the state where they live, into efforts that most need it.

    In other words, if you live in Utah and are not an NRA member and do not regularly contribute to The Calguns Foundation, you should feel the tug of an obligation to do so. Likewise, if you live in New Hampshire and do not contribute to SCOPE you should have the desire to share the trappings of liberty that you enjoy, and be a card carrying volunteer in support of New York gun owners.

    If you have retreated to a free state to evade any responsibility to the preservation of liberty, to mock others in their struggle against tyranny, and relish the ease of casual freedom with no expectation of sacrifice... you are more detestable than those who are overtly circumventing our right to keep and carry arms... Because the depth of your kinship with us ends short of bleeding with and for us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ConditionThree View Post
    None of our objectives can be advanced by a retreat to territories not in dispute.

    The front lines of the war over the second amendment are New York, California, Maryland, Illinois, and New Jersey. What ever victory we have will be won here... not in Montana, Idaho, Wyoming, Utah, Virginia, New Hampshire, or Vermont. Those that live in states already deemed 'free' have an obligation to their brothers in places like Califrornia and New York... to put their support that is not required in the state where they live, into efforts that most need it.

    In other words, if you live in Utah and are not an NRA member and do not regularly contribute to The Calguns Foundation, you should feel the tug of an obligation to do so. Likewise, if you live in New Hampshire and do not contribute to SCOPE you should have the desire to share the trappings of liberty that you enjoy, and be a card carrying volunteer in support of New York gun owners.

    If you have retreated to a free state to evade any responsibility to the preservation of liberty, to mock others in their struggle against tyranny, and relish the ease of casual freedom with no expectation of sacrifice... you are more detestable than those who are overtly circumventing our right to keep and carry arms... Because the depth of your kinship with us ends short of bleeding with and for us.
    With all due respect when some out of state OCers have made suggestions or spoke of support, they have been told repeatedly to mind your own business by CA people. I may be wrong, and you can correct me, but I believe you have told me to mind my own business before.

    If you want the support you have to take any suggestions or criticism, or you can go it alone. Make up your minds. I really despise arrogant people who ask for money. If that is not you then I apologize, if it is then bugger off.
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    @Con3

    You make very valid points. It is human nature to see someone between a rock & a hard place and have a inner voice say: "damn I'm glad that's not me!". It should also be second nature to ask: "Can I help?".

    This said I will follow my own advice & send a donation to your group before weeks end. If we all chipped in a few bucks when we could instead buying that: (snicker bar, coffee, soda/pop, etc...), we could make huge gains on the "freedom fronts".

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    Quote Originally Posted by ConditionThree View Post
    None of our objectives can be advanced by a retreat to territories not in dispute.

    The front lines of the war over the second amendment are New York, California, Maryland, Illinois, and New Jersey. What ever victory we have will be won here... not in Montana, Idaho, Wyoming, Utah, Virginia, New Hampshire, or Vermont. Those that live in states already deemed 'free' have an obligation to their brothers in places like Califrornia and New York... to put their support that is not required in the state where they live, into efforts that most need it.

    In other words, if you live in Utah and are not an NRA member and do not regularly contribute to The Calguns Foundation, you should feel the tug of an obligation to do so. Likewise, if you live in New Hampshire and do not contribute to SCOPE you should have the desire to share the trappings of liberty that you enjoy, and be a card carrying volunteer in support of New York gun owners.

    If you have retreated to a free state to evade any responsibility to the preservation of liberty, to mock others in their struggle against tyranny, and relish the ease of casual freedom with no expectation of sacrifice... you are more detestable than those who are overtly circumventing our right to keep and carry arms... Because the depth of your kinship with us ends short of bleeding with and for us.
    “Our” objectives are very different. I’m going to be blunt in this reply, and no personal offense is intended.

    The 86 million people (rounded to the nearest million, per the 2012 US census numbers) who live in the “battleground” States that you mentioned, choose to be slaves. Out of 314 million people in the US (again per the 2012 census numbers), that is a big percentage of people choosing to exist in a condition of voluntary slavery. Continued residence in said jurisdictions for whatever reasons proves this.

    Daily living in those States (paying taxes, functioning in their economies) contributes to the status-quo. It ensures the continuity of the absence of liberty for the subjects in those areas.

    I have no pity for (nor do I mock), nor do I have any desire to assist those people in any way. “States” like California are lost causes for gun owners. Failing to recognize that reality and insisting on wasting resources in futile efforts in those locations is not logical, or ultimately productive.

    Personally, any resources that I donate go directly into New Hampshire pro-gun organizations that are keeping our citizens here free. As far as Federally, I only support GOA.

    Best of luck.
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    @Tac9mm.

    Man with that kind of attitude you better hope those sneaky folks in Canada never decide to over run your puny state and force you to watch hockey night in Canada at french toast skillet point!

    Seriously, to just say screw those who live in less free states -shows a complete lack of situational awareness on your part. If we allow other of our countrymen to be oppressed, what does that make us? The move towards dictatorship in our country is like a cancer. If we don't fight it , it will and has spread.

    I for one - would much rather fight it in the: legislatures, courts & press now than in the streets later. But hey that's just me...
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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeInAZ View Post
    @Tac9mm.

    Man with that kind of attitude you better hope those sneaky folks in Canada never decide to over run your puny state and force you to watch hockey night in Canada at french toast skillet point!

    Seriously, to just say screw those who live in less free states -shows a complete lack of situational awareness on your part. If we allow other of our countrymen to be oppressed, what does that make us? The move towards dictatorship in our country is like a cancer. If we don't fight it , it will and has spread.

    I for one - would much rather fight it in the: legislatures, courts & press now than in the streets later. But hey that's just me...
    Just don't forget part of the reasoning behind the Federal system of Sovereign States is if one state better suits someone's desires/needs, one is free to move between states. It is much harder to switch between countries.

    That said, it sure sounds to me like the people living in the states that repress basic guaranteed freedoms need to solicit funds and BURY the State in litigation as it is clear that the Legislation route is a non-starter. Given Heller/McDonald, I do not know who this cannot be a 14th Amendment "equal protection" issue. How does someone in NH have a greater "right" to self defense than someone in CA/IL/NJ/NY ?? (or put differently, how does CA have a different and stronger "compelling interest" than NC or NH in restricting a basic RIGHT?)

    My $0.02... collect LOTS of money and sue the heck outta CA and stop wasting time/$ on legislation.
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