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    A few more spots OC friendly

    Steak and shake by tri county mall off 275

    Bass pro shops off 275 near tri county.

    Also the khols that is right next to bass pro shop.

    Pretty much anywhere in brown county

    There are more places that I have gone to that have not said anything to me but these are the ones that I actually had a conversation with either the store manager or a staff member about me OCing and they had no problem with it.

    Just trying to help everyone out with their mental lists. If anyone has more around the Cincy area please let
    Me know, I am always trying to expand my list of places to not do buissness if they are not firearm friendly.

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    And why did you strike up a conversation with these people if THEY didn't approach you first?

    Wait 2 weeks and return to each of those locations to make sure they are still not posted.
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    What does a caring, sensitive person feel when they are forced to use a handgun to stop a threat?

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    I was informed yesterday that some manager at a Home Depot down south asked a customer who was open carrying to leave the store. The ruckus prompted corporate to require nation wide training of all employees that corporate policy is to comply with state law.

    Apparently employees are not allowed to interfere with home depot's customer service motto: Can't find what you're looking for? Then strap on your gun and come on down, we'll help you find it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    Hey all, I'm new to the forums and OCing in general. I live right by in the area and can add a few places to the list. Penn station on rt.4 right across from Jungle Jims, walgreens at the rt.4/bypass 4 intersection an meijers by Cincinnati Mills mall. Now I didn't talk with anyone specifically about it but I was definitely noticed by employees/management and never had anyone say anything to me. Seemed positive to me

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    Well,,,

    Quote Originally Posted by joanie View Post
    I'm new to this discussion board as well, and to open carrying in general. Heres what I don't get. Why not just go in to a store or resturaunt, without your firearm, and check with the business first? Just flat out ask them, and make a list of the places that allow it. Lets find out where the owners or managers stand on this issue.

    I know if it were up to me, thats to say if I was in charge of a bussiness, My main concern would be losing customers. So I would tell the OCers to get back to me in a week. Durring that week I would be taking surveys from my customers asking if they mind. My point being, it's one thing to exersize personal freedom, but Bussiness is out to make money, and if they stand to take a big loss from offended customers, parionoid as they are, not returning, then you can hardly blame them for not allowing guns in their store. And yes, we need to change minds on that. Maybe respectfully asking first is a good first step. At least it would have people talking about it.

    The upside for me, going to a place I never been and have no plans to return to, Like Youngstown, is if I do get banned from the bussiness, it's not a major inconvience. Unless of corse it's a chain, and the ban extends to all their stores.
    You Are new here, So, welcome!
    You are uneducated, so, learn.

    Never Ask If the business will allow you you to carry a gun!
    They will always decide that carry is against some new policy!

    Never Ask for permission to carry in their business!
    They will all most always say, No, it is forbiden by our new policy!

    Do not look for signs against carry,
    Carry as you always do,
    go about your business, as you normally do, just like always.
    If you are confronted about your carry, If you are told No carry allowed,
    Say OK, leave you cart of goods, and leave, politely!

    Contact the business owners by phone or email and voice your concerns, and the law.

    Lots of folks on this forum will be Very helpful in the ways to comunicate with these folks, after the fact.
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    Stand up for your Rights,, They have no authority on their own...

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    Joanie-

    Let me try to put what Defender said in different words...



    AAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!



    If you think that business owners and managers out there are as reasonable and fair-minded as you are, you are quite mistaken.

    Many times, a business does not think about guns unless 1 of 3 things happens:

    1) They get robbed. This causes them to post a No Guns sign on their door. An emotional, ineffective, knee-jerk reaction.

    2) Somebody asks them about carrying, either open or concealed. That causes them to post a No Guns sign so the issue doesn't come up in the future.

    3) Somebody with an openly carried handgun comes into their shop, doesn't rob them and actually GIVES THEM MONEY when buying stuff.

    Suffice it to say, item #3 causes a link to be formed in their brain between guns and money.

    There is an item #3a. If the open carrier is asked to leave and doesn't, or argues while leaving. That caused the Wendy's on Busch Blvd. to post a No Guns sign.

    So, no, it is not a good idea to ask first. You are doing a legal activity. If they do not have signage prohibiting that legal activity, why would you ask?
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    A few more spots OC friendly

    Lets say you have a bumper sticker with political views expressed. Do you walk into the store and ask the owner if its OK to park in their parking lot. Maybe your political view isn't supported by the owner of the store. It is legal to have what ever bumper sticker you want. Even if your sticker supports things that hurt that business like unfair taxes, no job creation, destroying our bill of rights and weapons bans based on actions of the mentally ill.
    Don't ask permission to follow the law.
    Don't represent our freedoms in a negative way when confronted.
    Respect their property rights if asked to leave.
    Educate them on the law and our rights if they are willing to listen.


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    I will be echoing some of the things said already, and disagreeing some.

    NEVER ask if carry is allowed. You will only motivate a policy against carry to be set. You will not cause any movement in the other direction.

    Follow ALL signs. It is the law in Ohio, and not doing so will provide stories that cast carry in a bad light when you get jacked up for carrying where the owner has posted a sign against it.

    Carry everywhere that the law or signs do not prohibit. Leave when asked to do so--immediately, even if that means leaving an unfinished and unpaid meal or a cart full of perishable groceries.

    The normalization of carry will be the result of carry where allowed becoming more and more prevalent, so just carry and don't make an issue of it. Let the hoplophobes feel the need to turn it into an issue, and then you react rationally.

    This takes time, but has proven to be the only effective course of action.

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    I can tell you that Bass Pro off I-275 is NOT OC friendly. I went in with my dad to look at buying a new shotgun (with my Sig on my hip) and the old guy at the gun counter looked at me and told me that carrying openly is "against their rules". I politely thanked him for telling me and asked if I should go put it in the car. He just looked at me and walked away. I started to walk out of the store with my dad and the store manager found me and made a scene about how I'm not supposed to OC in there and how it detracts from the family type atmosphere. He walked me over to get a trigger lock put on my gun. My dad has his CCW and I do not, so I handed him my gun and we walked out. Never going back to any Bass Pro ever again. No signs, rules, or notifications about it were posted.

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    Call corporate. Either policy changed or the manager does not know BPS policy. We had a similar incident in the BPS in Prattville, AL. The manager learned from corporate that OC is allowed in BPS. However, if a customer is going to be unholstering his firearm for any reason, then it must be checked in, unloaded, and disabled.

    If you are OCing with no intention to touch the firearm, they follow State law. If you are going to be trying holsters or other accessories to find if they work with your firearm, then that is a different story. After the Prattville manager was slapped down, we scheduled a few OC shopping trips and lunches to drive the point home.

    Unless policy changed, BPS allows OC where State law does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshJeh View Post
    I can tell you that Bass Pro off I-275 is NOT OC friendly. I went in with my dad to look at buying a new shotgun (with my Sig on my hip) and the old guy at the gun counter looked at me and told me that carrying openly is "against their rules". I politely thanked him for telling me and asked if I should go put it in the car. He just looked at me and walked away. I started to walk out of the store with my dad and the store manager found me and made a scene about how I'm not supposed to OC in there and how it detracts from the family type atmosphere. He walked me over to get a trigger lock put on my gun. My dad has his CCW and I do not, so I handed him my gun and we walked out. Never going back to any Bass Pro ever again. No signs, rules, or notifications about it were posted.
    Better to go up the corporate food chain and get this straightened out, than to roll over and play dead. We educate and motivate, not capitulate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joanie View Post
    One other question, should I get a ccw permit? Would it protect me in any way if I open carry often?, or will it somehow work against me?
    I'd recommend the license, if for no other reason than Ohio's laws regarding the transport of firearms (especially loaded ones) in a motor vehicle. Don't know how many times you get in and out of a car during any given day, but many of the OC'ers in this state go ahead and get the license just to take some of the time-consuming hassle out of their daily routine. (Don't take my word for that, maybe we can get a few of the forum regulars here to chime in, since I'm most often a concealed carrier.) Perhaps more importantly, if one is attacked while inside their vehicle while stopped at a red light or whatever, an empty gun is kinda...useless, at least until the person can get it loaded.

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    Re: A few more spots OC friendly

    Quote Originally Posted by joanie View Post
    I'd almost bet the apartment complex now has a no gun policy.
    Doesn't matter if they do. Ohio law prohibits landlords from prohibiting tenants or their guests from carrying firearms on the property.



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    Originally Posted by joanie

    I'd almost bet the apartment complex now has a no gun policy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hareuhal View Post
    Doesn't matter if they do. Ohio law prohibits landlords from prohibiting tenants or their guests from carrying firearms on the property.
    Cite please.
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    That law is as it should be. I'm big on property rights. Stores are free to post their gunbuster signs, and I am more than happy to respect that. But when someone's home is leased from another, it becomes their home in which they enjoy all of their rights: speech, religion, association, self-defense, etc.

    I have no idea whether my landlord likes it, but I have as many firearms in this apartment as I have rooms, including the bathroom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Cite please.
    ORC 2923.126 includes the following:


    (b) A landlord may not prohibit or restrict a tenant who is a licensee and who on or after September 9, 2008, enters into a rental agreement with the landlord for the use of residential premises, and the tenant’s guest while the tenant is present, from lawfully carrying or possessing a handgun on those residential premises.

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    Re: A few more spots OC friendly

    Quote Originally Posted by eye95 View Post
    ORC 2923.126 includes the following:


    (b) A landlord may not prohibit or restrict a tenant who is a licensee and who on or after September 9, 2008, enters into a rental agreement with the landlord for the use of residential premises, and the tenant’s guest while the tenant is present, from lawfully carrying or possessing a handgun on those residential premises.
    Thanks for the cite. I am on my phone and pulling up the ORC is annoying when not on a computer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eye95 View Post
    ORC 2923.126 includes the following:


    (b) A landlord may not prohibit or restrict a tenant who is a licensee and who on or after September 9, 2008, enters into a rental agreement with the landlord for the use of residential premises, and the tenant’s guest while the tenant is present, from lawfully carrying or possessing a handgun on those residential premises.
    Other states would do well to have similar - I like that

    Section 3 b
    http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2923.126
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    Quote Originally Posted by eye95 View Post
    Call corporate. Either policy changed or the manager does not know BPS policy. We had a similar incident in the BPS in Prattville, AL. The manager learned from corporate that OC is allowed in BPS. However, if a customer is going to be unholstering his firearm for any reason, then it must be checked in, unloaded, and disabled.

    If you are OCing with no intention to touch the firearm, they follow State law. If you are going to be trying holsters or other accessories to find if they work with your firearm, then that is a different story. After the Prattville manager was slapped down, we scheduled a few OC shopping trips and lunches to drive the point home.

    Unless policy changed, BPS allows OC where State law does.
    When OCing I never touch my gun or draw attention to the fact that I have one. I also OC only when I'm with my dad just because I know that when (not if) I get harassed by law enforcement, he'll be able to take responsibility for me.

    Immediately after I got home from the store, I sent an email to the complaints department and I guess they just re-routed it to the store manager because the reply I received was from him. He just apologized and offered me a $25 gift card for my troubles. I think I was more offended at that than I was about the actual event. I'll look around to see if I can find a phone number instead of using email.

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    Did he indicate that the store was in error, and did he promise correction? If so, that is the desired outcome. I'd say take the $25 and run.

    If he did not indicate that the problem had been corrected, ask him again very directly or elevate to corporate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eye95 View Post
    ORC 2923.126 includes the following:


    (b) A landlord may not prohibit or restrict a tenant who is a licensee and who on or after September 9, 2008, enters into a rental agreement with the landlord for the use of residential premises, and the tenant’s guest while the tenant is present, from lawfully carrying or possessing a handgun on those residential premises.

    And keep in mind, the tenant must be present for the guest to carry. A guest is anyone not on the lease. So if you loan your key to a friend, even a dating partner, or someone while you are on vacation, they would then be in violation as you are not present.

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