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Son of SB 59 Introduced

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casper

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Yes. All OC without a CPL will be an instant felony. I hear they are planning to bring back capital punishment in Michigan just for this crime.
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Please tell me that's sarcasim. I don't have a CPL, so I was going to open carry for a while.
 
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casper said:
Please tell me that's sarcasim. I don't have a CPL, so I was going to open carry for a while.
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Do you prefer:
  • Lethal Injection
  • Gas Chamber
  • Electric Chair
  • Firing Squad
  • Beheading

Your pick -- they are being quite generous.


Evidently you missed the memo on purple?
 
detroit_fan

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TheQ said:
Do you prefer:
  • Lethal Injection
  • Gas Chamber
  • Electric Chair
  • Firing Squad
  • Beheading

Your pick -- they are being quite generous.


Evidently you missed the memo on purple?
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is there no option for execution by elephant like they use to do in SE Asia? If not, there is no way I can support this bill!
 
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I learned long ago that if I didn't bend over I'd not get "butt hurt".
 
casper

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TheQ said:
Do you prefer:
  • Lethal Injection
  • Gas Chamber
  • Electric Chair
  • Firing Squad
  • Beheading

Your pick -- they are being quite generous.


Evidently you missed the memo on purple?
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Don't know about purple, but I'll bet I'm being laughed at.
 
Ezerharden

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TheQ said:
Do you prefer:
  • Lethal Injection
  • Gas Chamber
  • Electric Chair
  • Firing Squad
  • Beheading

Your pick -- they are being quite generous.


Evidently you missed the memo on purple?
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What happened to public hanging?
 
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Unless it gives us Constitutional Carry with no PFZs and eliminates every other oppressive gun law in the state I'm against it. All or nothing I say.
 
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Raggs said:
I have yet to hear that. Who is it saying that?
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You'll find many examples here:

https://www.facebook.com/MichiganOpenCarry/posts/10151329674546234

"they need to add hospitals. How many people (single moms especially) end up in the emergency room at 2 am with a sick child and are forced to be a victim because they cant carry their gun into the hospital. Have you ever visited someone in the hospital and go out to the parking garage shortly after 9pm and find that security is nowhere to be found. Im not very impressed with this bill at all. Better than nothing? maybe, but not by much."

"So it will not do any thing.....! Not good legislation at all. We need to end "gun free zones""

And here:

http://www.migunowners.org/forum/showthread.php?t=213893&page=41 (Start reading after post 406) Post 431 is a good example.

http://www.migunowners.org/forum/showpost.php?p=1946954&postcount=431
 
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While I understand that compromises will need to be made I don't understand why they are written into the bill right off the bat. What is the reasoning for not presenting the exact bill we want and negotiate down from there. What's the saying? "Shoot for the stars and settle for the moon." Why not present a bill that is just a straight repeal of all pistol free zones and then concede a few individual zones in negotiations?

Bronson
 
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Bronson said:
While I understand that compromises will need to be made I don't understand why they are written into the bill right off the bat. What is the reasoning for not presenting the exact bill we want and negotiate down from there. What's the saying? "Shoot for the stars and settle for the moon." Why not present a bill that is just a straight repeal of all pistol free zones and then concede a few individual zones in negotiations?

Bronson
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The problem with this is it's linear thinking. Once you bring in related yet separate issues, things change. Look at SB 59. SB 59 started with only good, then more was added to it. Later, a lot of bad (banning OC in PFZs) was added to it on top of scaling back some of the good.

Think of it like this. You're in Lansing and would like to get to Mackinac. Somewhere along the line you end up in Flint. Yes according to one measure (moving north) you have made progress, but according to other measures (you're in FLINT!) you are worse off.

Sometimes if a tree grows too fast it falls over. I believe this is what happened to SB 59.
 
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