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    HB 6162 PS Committee bill - person ins household makes you ineligibile

    http://www.cga.ct.gov/asp/cgabillsta...ll_num=HB06162



    General Assembly


    Committee Bill No. 6162

    January Session, 2013


    LCO No. 3071


    *03071HB06162PS_*

    Referred to Committee on PUBLIC SAFETY AND SECURITY


    Introduced by:


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    AN ACT CONCERNING INELIGIBILITY FOR A PERMIT TO CARRY A PISTOL OR REVOLVER OR AN ELIGIBILITY CERTIFICATE BASED ON A PRIOR HOSPITALIZATION.

    Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives in General Assembly convened:

    Section 1. Subsection (b) of section 29-28 of the general statutes is repealed and the following is substituted in lieu thereof (Effective October 1, 2013):

    (b) Upon the application of any person having a bona fide residence or place of business within the jurisdiction of any such authority, such chief of police, warden or selectman may issue a temporary state permit to such person to carry a pistol or revolver within the state, provided such authority shall find that such applicant intends to make no use of any pistol or revolver which such applicant may be permitted to carry under such permit other than a lawful use and that such person is a suitable person to receive such permit. No state or temporary state permit to carry a pistol or revolver shall be issued under this subsection if the applicant (1) has failed to successfully complete a course approved by the Commissioner of Emergency Services and Public Protection in the safety and use of pistols and revolvers including, but not limited to, a safety or training course in the use of pistols and revolvers available to the public offered by a law enforcement agency, a private or public educational institution or a firearms training school, utilizing instructors certified by the National Rifle Association or the Department of Energy and Environmental Protection and a safety or training course in the use of pistols or revolvers conducted by an instructor certified by the state or the National Rifle Association, (2) has been convicted of a felony or of a violation of subsection (c) of section 21a-279 or section 53a-58, 53a-61, 53a-61a, 53a-62, 53a-63, 53a-96, 53a-175, 53a-176, 53a-178 or 53a-181d, (3) has been convicted as delinquent for the commission of a serious juvenile offense, as defined in section 46b-120, (4) has been discharged from custody within the preceding twenty years after having been found not guilty of a crime by reason of mental disease or defect pursuant to section 53a-13, (5) has been, or a person residing in the household of the applicant has been, confined in a hospital for persons with psychiatric disabilities, as defined in section 17a-495, within the preceding [twelve] twenty-four months, [by order of a probate court,] (6) is subject to a restraining or protective order issued by a court in a case involving the use, attempted use or threatened use of physical force against another person, (7) is subject to a firearms seizure order issued pursuant to subsection (d) of section 29-38c after notice and hearing, (8) is prohibited from shipping, transporting, possessing or receiving a firearm pursuant to 18 USC 922(g)(4), (9) is an alien illegally or unlawfully in the United States, or (10) is less than twenty-one years of age. Nothing in this section shall require any person who holds a valid permit to carry a pistol or revolver on October 1, 1994, to participate in any additional training in the safety and use of pistols and revolvers. Upon issuance of a temporary state permit to the applicant, the local authority shall forward the original application to the commissioner. Not later than sixty days after receiving a temporary state permit, an applicant shall appear at a location designated by the commissioner to receive the state permit. Said commissioner may then issue, to any holder of any temporary state permit, a state permit to carry a pistol or revolver within the state. Upon issuance of the state permit, the commissioner shall make available to the permit holder a copy of the law regarding the permit holder's responsibility to report the loss or theft of a firearm and the penalties associated with the failure to comply with such law. Upon issuance of the state permit, the commissioner shall forward a record of such permit to the local authority issuing the temporary state permit. The commissioner shall retain records of all applications, whether approved or denied. The copy of the state permit delivered to the permittee shall be laminated and shall contain a full-face photograph of such permittee. A person holding a state permit issued pursuant to this subsection shall notify the issuing authority within two business days of any change of such person's address. The notification shall include the old address and the new address of such person.

    Sec. 2. Subsection (b) of section 29-36f of the general statutes is repealed and the following is substituted in lieu thereof (Effective October 1, 2013):

    (b) The Commissioner of Emergency Services and Public Protection shall issue an eligibility certificate unless said commissioner finds that the applicant: (1) Has failed to successfully complete a course approved by the Commissioner of Emergency Services and Public Protection in the safety and use of pistols and revolvers including, but not limited to, a safety or training course in the use of pistols and revolvers available to the public offered by a law enforcement agency, a private or public educational institution or a firearms training school, utilizing instructors certified by the National Rifle Association or the Department of Energy and Environmental Protection and a safety or training course in the use of pistols or revolvers conducted by an instructor certified by the state or the National Rifle Association; (2) has been convicted of a felony or of a violation of subsection (c) of section 21a-279 or section 53a-58, 53a-61, 53a-61a, 53a-62, 53a-63, 53a-96, 53a-175, 53a-176, 53a-178 or 53a-181d; (3) has been convicted as delinquent for the commission of a serious juvenile offense, as defined in section 46b-120; (4) has been discharged from custody within the preceding twenty years after having been found not guilty of a crime by reason of mental disease or defect pursuant to section 53a-13; (5) has been, or a person residing in the household of the applicant has been, confined in a hospital for persons with psychiatric disabilities, as defined in section 17a-495, within the preceding [twelve] twenty-four months; [by order of a probate court;] (6) is subject to a restraining or protective order issued by a court in a case involving the use, attempted use or threatened use of physical force against another person; (7) is subject to a firearms seizure order issued pursuant to subsection (d) of section 29-38c after notice and hearing; (8) is prohibited from shipping, transporting, possessing or receiving a firearm pursuant to 18 USC 922(g)(4); or (9) is an alien illegally or unlawfully in the United States.

    Sec. 3. Section 29-38b of the general statutes is repealed and the following is substituted in lieu thereof (Effective October 1, 2013):

    (a) The Commissioner of Emergency Services and Public Protection, in fulfilling his obligations under sections 29-28 to 29-38, inclusive, as amended by this act, and section 53-202d, shall verify that any person who, on or after October 1, [1998] 2013, applies for or seeks renewal of a permit to sell at retail a pistol or revolver, a permit to carry a pistol or revolver, an eligibility certificate for a pistol or revolver or a certificate of possession for an assault weapon, and any person residing in the household of the applicant, has not been confined in a hospital for persons with psychiatric disabilities, as defined in section 17a-495, within the preceding [twelve] twenty-four months, [by order of a probate court,] by making an inquiry to the Department of Mental Health and Addiction Services in such a manner so as to only receive a report on the commitment status of the person with respect to whom the inquiry is made including identifying information in accordance with the provisions of subsection (b) of section 17a-500.

    (b) If the Commissioner of Emergency Services and Public Protection determines pursuant to subsection (a) of this section that [a] the person making the application, or a person residing in the household of the applicant, has been confined in a hospital for persons with psychiatric disabilities, as defined in section 17a-495, within the preceding [twelve] twenty-four months, [by order of a probate court,] said commissioner shall report the status of such person's application for or renewal of a permit to sell at retail a pistol or revolver, a permit to carry a pistol or revolver, an eligibility certificate for a pistol or revolver or a certificate of possession for an assault weapon to the Commissioner of Mental Health and Addiction Services for the purpose of fulfilling his responsibilities under subsection (c) of section 17a-500.



    This act shall take effect as follows and shall amend the following sections:

    Section 1


    October 1, 2013

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    This is from Miner ... an anti bill....taken from Japanese law ... a very bad bill IMO

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    whoa whoa whoa, wait, WHAT??? twice in there is mentioned "a certificate of possession for an assault weapon". WHAT?????
    is this a foretelling stating that before even drafting a bill or voting on said bill that a law requiring registration of an "assault weapon" will most definitely be passed? I think this needs to be noted strongly, and fought against even stronger!
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    Good catch ! grrrrrrr .... is Miller an anti?
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    Quote Originally Posted by motoxmann View Post
    whoa whoa whoa, wait, WHAT??? twice in there is mentioned "a certificate of possession for an assault weapon". WHAT?????
    is this a foretelling stating that before even drafting a bill or voting on said bill that a law requiring registration of an "assault weapon" will most definitely be passed? I think this needs to be noted strongly, and fought against even stronger!
    Here's the Govenah's decree: http://media2.wtnh.com/_local/docume...y-Proposal.pdf

    "Individuals who lawfully purchased these firearms before the date of enactment should
    have until October 1, 2013 to register their firearms with the state police and be granted
    a certificate of possession and obtain a permit. These registered firearms should be
    subject to existing ownership laws concerning banned assault weapons. While being
    transported, registered military-style assault weapons must be unloaded and, if
    transported in a vehicle, kept in the trunk or in a case inaccessible to the vehicle
    operator or passengers. If an individual chooses to sell or transfer an assault weapon, it
    may be sold only to a licensed firearm dealer or out of state."

    Under his proposal, even a Ruger 10/22 (.22 LR) with a thumbhole stock or muzzle brake would be banned...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freiheit417 View Post
    Here's the Govenah's decree: http://media2.wtnh.com/_local/docume...y-Proposal.pdf

    "Individuals who lawfully purchased these firearms before the date of enactment should
    have until October 1, 2013 to register their firearms with the state police and be granted
    a certificate of possession and obtain a permit. These registered firearms should be
    subject to existing ownership laws concerning banned assault weapons. While being
    transported, registered military-style assault weapons must be unloaded and, if
    transported in a vehicle, kept in the trunk or in a case inaccessible to the vehicle
    operator or passengers. If an individual chooses to sell or transfer an assault weapon, it
    may be sold only to a licensed firearm dealer or out of state."

    Under his proposal, even a Ruger 10/22 (.22 LR) with a thumbhole stock or muzzle brake would be banned...
    should have seen that one coming lol. funny thing is, if someone has say a ruger mini-14 with pistol grip and muzzlebreak and a 30rd mag (all currently legal), the above would obviously make it illegal. but, they could just cut off the muzzlebreak and threaded tip, unbolt the pistol grip from the receiver, and insert a spacer in the mag to make it only hold 10 rounds. it would all be legal according to the above, even though its the exact same gun and mag.

    should I not have said that? should I delete that? meh, I'll let a few people read it before deleting it
    Last edited by motoxmann; 02-21-2013 at 08:56 PM.
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    And yet NOTHING in respect to actual school safety and security ... of facilities, training for emergencies ... nothing

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