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    South of the border

    Court won't reconsider Illinois concealed carry ruling



    We won't have to afraid of crossing the southern border real soon


    A federal appeals court won't reconsider an earlier ruling that Illinois' concealed carry ban is unconstitutional.

    A three-judge panel of the 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals struck down Illinois' ban in December and gave lawmakers until June 8 to legalize the concealed carry of firearms.

    Attorney General Lisa Madigan asked for all 10 judges to review the decision, saying it conflicted with decisions by other federal appellate courts and goes beyond what the U.S. Supreme Court has held.

    Illinois is the only state in the nation that still has a ban in place.


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    only if they will acknowledge wi in their reciprocity terms\agreements or what ever you call it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firearms Iinstuctor View Post
    We won't have to afraid of crossing the southern border real soon
    http://www.wpsdlocal6.com/home/ticke...192515271.html

    I don't share your optimism. I'm covered by federal law and even I get nervous when I carry down to the flatlands.

    Theres already talk of making it like NYC. Legally on the books but many, many hoops to jump through. I'm afraid it will take several more court rulings and years of fighting before the FIBS get their act together.

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    HR218 for me too but in the real anti gun states a I worry also.

    This ruling should help with that also.
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    Hr218

    As I do also carry under HR218 and don't worry at all when I go out of state, all 50 states have to honor it. I got mine working for the Federal Bureau of Prisons how did you get yours?

    Cowboyridn


    Quote Originally Posted by Firearms Iinstuctor View Post
    HR218 for me too but in the real anti gun states a I worry also.

    This ruling should help with that also.

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    We have a very good bills in both the house and senate F(HB997 & SB1284). However the Dems have put in a shell bill that we are fighting very hard. It would look worse than Ca. or NY.

    Keep us in your thoughts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cowboyridn View Post
    As I do also carry under HR218 and don't worry at all when I go out of state, all 50 states have to honor it. I got mine working for the Federal Bureau of Prisons how did you get yours?

    Cowboyridn
    You both must have been federal employees/police officers etc... to get that benefit. I don't suppose I can get one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Law abider View Post
    You both must have been federal employees/police officers etc... to get that benefit. I don't suppose I can get one.
    Fed,State,County ,local,leo who have retired honorably with at least 10 years of service and shoot a qualifying course of fire once a year.

    just look up HR218 and one can find all the info you want.
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    Here's the latest..

    Hey all.. Haven't logged in for a while. Seen the thread & wanted to update it.
    Here's the latest from today..


    http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/full...ID=12&Session=

    Interesting one that got in:
    Section 250-20. Issuance of licenses to carry a concealed firearm.

    (h) Any Illinois resident who has a license or permit to
    carry a handgun issued by another state shall be able to carry
    a handgun in accordance with this Act using that license for
    365 days following the effective date of this Act.
    Training requirements:

    Section 250-85. Applicant training.
    (a) Applicants shall provide proof of completion of at
    least one of the following courses:
    (1) National Rifle Association Basic Personal
    Protection In The Home Course.
    (2) National Rifle Association Basics of Personal
    Protection Outside The Home Course.
    (3) National Rifle Association Basic Pistol Shooting
    Course.
    (4) Any other firearms training course of at least 6
    hours that covers the following:
    (A) handgun safety in the classroom, at home, on
    the firing range, and while carrying the firearm;
    (B) the basic principles of marksmanship;
    (C) care and cleaning of handguns;
    (D) laws relating to the justifiable use of force.
    (b) Applicants shall provide proof of certification by a
    certified instructor that the applicant passed a live fire
    exercise with a handgun consisting of:
    (1) a minimum of 30 rounds; and
    (2) 10 rounds from a distance of 5 yards, 10 rounds
    from a distance of 7 yards, and 10 rounds from a distance
    of 10 yards at a B-27 silhouette or equivalent target as
    approved by the Department.
    (b-5) Students may provide their own safe, functional
    handgun. The qualification shall be performed with
    factory-loaded ammunition.
    (b-6) Grades of "passing" shall not be given on range work

    to an applicant who:
    (1) does not follow the orders of the certified
    firearms instructor;
    (2) in the judgment of the certified firearms
    instructor, handles a firearm in a manner that poses a
    danger to the applicant or to others; or
    (3) during the testing portion of the range work fails
    to hit the silhouette portion of the target with 70% of the
    30 rounds fired.
    (c) The classroom portion of the course may, at the
    qualified firearms instructor's discretion, be divided into
    segments of not less than 2 hours each.
    (d) Instructors shall maintain all records for students'
    performance for not less than 5 years.
    (e) Certified firearms instructors shall:
    (1) allow monitoring of their classes by officials of
    any certifying agency;
    (2) make all course records available upon demand to
    authorized personnel of the Department; and
    (3) not divulge course records except as authorized by
    the certifying agency.
    (f) Fees for applicant training courses shall be set by the
    instructor.
    (g) An applicant training course shall not have more than
    40 students in the classroom portion nor more than 5 students
    per range officer engaged in range firing.

    (h) Persons with the following training or certifications
    are exempt from the requirements of subsection (a) of this
    Section:
    (1) An National Rifle Association certified
    instructor.
    (2) An individual who has qualified to carry a firearm
    as a retired law enforcement officer.
    (3) Any active, retired, or honorably discharged
    member of the armed forces.
    (4) An individual certified as a law enforcement
    instructor by the Illinois Law Enforcement Training
    Standards Board or other equivalent agency.

    Section 250-90. Firearms instructors training.
    (a) Not later than 30 days after the effective date of this
    Act, the Department shall establish a registry of instructors
    who are eligible to teach courses or sign off on range
    qualifications, or both, to meet the requirements of Section
    250-85 of this Act.
    (b) Instructors who are eligible to teach courses and
    certify range qualifications shall have one of the following
    valid firearms instructor certifications:
    (1) National Rifle Association Personal Protection
    Instructor;
    (2) National Rifle Association Basic Pistol
    Instructor;

    (3) National Rifle Association Law Enforcement Firearm
    Instructor with a certification for handguns;
    (4) Certification from a firearms instructor's course
    offered by a State or federal governmental agency; or
    (5) A similar firearms instructor qualifying course
    approved by the Illinois Law Enforcement Training
    Standards Board.
    (c) Instructors who are eligible to teach courses and
    certify range qualifications shall be at least 21 years of age
    and possess at least a high school diploma or GED certificate.
    (d) An applicant may have his or her instructor
    qualification revoked if the applicant:
    (1) does not meet the requirements of this Act to
    possess a concealed firearms permit;
    (2) provides false or misleading information to the
    Board; or
    (3) has had a prior instructor qualification revoked by
    the Board or other certifying organization.
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