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Thread: Now's our chance to help the Open Carry effort in Arkansas

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    Now's our chance to help the Open Carry effort in Arkansas

    The author of the Open Carry bill in Arkansas (HB1408) has asked for help. Representative Sue Scott has asked for people to call, fax and email Speaker Davy Carter. Speaker Carter has expressed his opposition to open carry, and his opposition is based on nothing but typical anti-open carry stereotypes and myths.

    According to an Associated Press story published on the Arkansas Business website, Carter, R-Cabot, told reporters this week, I dont want to live in a world where everybody is walking around with holsters on their hips and carrying guns out in the open.

    As you may know, a Speaker of the House in a state legislature wields great power in deciding which bills are heard or allowed to advance through the process. OCDO supporters can call, fax or email Speaker Carter and either educate him on open carry in other states, or simply tell him that you support open carry and want him to be fair with this bill. Nothing says that you need to be an Arkansas resident to share your views with a legislator.

    Please take a moment to send an email, fax and/or a phone call to Speaker Carter.

    More information at 5newsonline.com

    Email davy.carter@arkansashouse.org
    Phone 501-941-8946
    Fax 501-641-4241

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    Not really understanding why this was moved to the AR forum where nobody will see it. It was not intended for an Arkansas audience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by okiebryan View Post
    Not really understanding why this was moved to the AR forum where nobody will see it. It was not intended for an Arkansas audience.
    Yet another unannounced moderator decision made with no explanation.

    I completely understand that moderators, including those who are unknown, can make decisions like that. At the very least, though, they owe an explanation to those involved, and to the general readership so they'll understand the rules and not repeat the mistake.

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    Bryan,

    I have been following the 746 for some time. I agree we should help our neighbors in any way we can. Their new law does have some grey area, but not enough for LEO's to make up their own rules.

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    Question here: Since there seems to be ambiguity on this issue (AG saying OC not legal), can a lawsuit be filed w/o having to wait until someone's arrested? Can someone get standing w/o taking the plunge so to speak?

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    Quote Originally Posted by okiebryan View Post
    Not really understanding why this was moved to the AR forum where nobody will see it. It was not intended for an Arkansas audience.
    Perhaps that point was missed.

    Now it's in "News and Political Alerts."
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    Quote Originally Posted by press1280 View Post
    Question here: Since there seems to be ambiguity on this issue (AG saying OC not legal), can a lawsuit be filed w/o having to wait until someone's arrested? Can someone get standing w/o taking the plunge so to speak?
    Whenever there's ambiguity in law, typically a lawsuit can be filed and remedy sought(usually an injunction). In my state this is called a declaratory judgement and is found in the rules of civil procedure:

    Art. 1871. Declaratory judgments; scope

    Courts of record within their respective jurisdictions may declare rights, status, and other legal relations whether or not further relief is or could be claimed. No action or proceeding shall be open to objection on the ground that a declaratory judgment or decree is prayed for; and the existence of another adequate remedy does not preclude a judgment for declaratory relief in cases where it is appropriate. The declaration shall have the force and effect of a final judgment or decree.

    Look up the rules for your state.

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