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    So, I hear through the grape vine..

    The Attorney General is coming to our employment, to take a look at ongoing construction, and have lunch with us. If granted, anything anyone would like me to ask, recommend for discussion?

    .45 or bust

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    Quote Originally Posted by mpguy View Post
    anything anyone would like me to ask,
    Boxers or briefs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ProShooter View Post
    Boxers or briefs?
    That made me literally LOL

    Lol

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    This thread is related to OC or RKBA in VA how?
    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training. Archilochus, 650 BC

    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

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    Re: So, I hear through the grape vine..

    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    This thread is related to OC or RKBA in VA how?
    I just wanted to bring it up, as I know a lot of guys here, are more knowledgeable on current gun related events than myself. I'm also still somewhat inexperienced, as to discussing the topics.

    If he open up the floor to general discussion, I'd like to ease into the discussion with ideas not only of my own but others here.

    Just a thought it would help, being he does give advice to our Governor. If it's inappropriate for the section, then do as you see fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    This thread is related to OC or RKBA in VA how?
    I assume looking for gun related ? to pose to the AG....

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    Re: So, I hear through the grape vine..

    Quote Originally Posted by HearseGuy View Post
    That made me literally LOL

    Lol
    Least he didn't suggest Speedos!

    .45 or bust
    Last edited by mpguy; 02-25-2013 at 10:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidmcbeth View Post
    I assume looking for gun related ? to pose to the AG....
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    Presume that everyone is aware the Ken Cuccinelli is a candidate for governor.
    http://cuccinelli.com/

    Perhaps ask him if he would support Constitutional Carry in VA or how we may get state agency/state college preemption on gun laws.

    Everyone should have the right to self-defense.
    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training. Archilochus, 650 BC

    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
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    Presume that everyone is aware the Ken Cuccinelli is a candidate for governor.
    http://cuccinelli.com/

    Perhaps ask him if he would support Constitutional Carry in VA or how we may get state agency/state college preemption on gun laws.

    Everyone should have the right to self-defense.
    You beat me to it Grape. That's an excellent question for him.

    Ken has always been a favorite of mine despite the uproar over GM. People change though and I haven't talked to him for a while.
    See if he's changed.

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    Do not ask him if he supports X. Of course he does. As him what specific actions he plans to take to introduce legislation* for:

    State agency preemption!

    Followed by civil immunity if found not guity or not charged following a defensive shooting. Please do not screw this up by calling it "castle doctrine" or "stand your ground".

    While important, constitutional carry is much farther down on my list. It's also not politically "expedient" at the moment. (I know, unless we push it, when will it ever become politicaaly expedient?)

    stay safe.

    * Governors have historically filed bills, as well as "asked" party members to introduce bills for him.
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    Off topic -

    Wonder if I can register grape vine/grapevine for my personal use? ..
    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training. Archilochus, 650 BC

    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Off topic -

    Wonder if I can register grape vine/grapevine for my personal use? ..
    I'll get a copyright to keep it safe for you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
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    Presume that everyone is aware the Ken Cuccinelli is a candidate for governor.
    http://cuccinelli.com/

    Perhaps ask him if he would support Constitutional Carry in VA or how we may get state agency/state college preemption on gun laws.

    Everyone should have the right to self-defense.
    His answer won't carry much weight for me. We asked him similar questions about preemption prior to him becoming AG. He gave us the answer we wanted to hear, and then once he became the AG, he took on an entirely different opinion. He is famous for doing this time after time. The typical opinion of the average politician fits this man to a t.

    I'm not really sure why anyone would vote for him again, but I guess some people are okay with being constantly lied to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hometheaterman View Post
    His answer won't carry much weight for me. We asked him similar questions about preemption prior to him becoming AG. He gave us the answer we wanted to hear, and then once he became the AG, he took on an entirely different opinion. He is famous for doing this time after time. The typical opinion of the average politician fits this man to a t.

    I'm not really sure why anyone would vote for him again, but I guess some people are okay with being constantly lied to.
    The problem with guns on campus and the court decision was they way the GMU case was presented by DiGiacinto. The AG did his job IMO given the law(s) of Va.
    http://www.virginia1774.org/GMULawsuit.html

    If Ken Cuccinelli has a disposition to see that changed, he will be in a better position to do so as governor. I do not see anyone stronger on our issues running for that office AND if they/he expects to win, politics will play a part.

    I will not throw him under the bus for not being perfection personified.
    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training. Archilochus, 650 BC

    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    Do not ask him if he supports X. Of course he does. As him what specific actions he plans to take to introduce legislation* for:

    ...
    See, skid asks the correct type of questions.

    Do NOT ask along the lines of:

    So, what do you think ....

    Ah, how do you feel about ...

    Do you support/oppose ...

    No, instead ask, if he were Governor, how he would act both publicly and behind the scenes to improve the lives and welfare of all Virginians who keep and carry weapons for self-preservation.

    Remember, Ken, Self-Preservation is a Natural Right, not a privilege. We are not to be alienated.

    If you really think about it, WE, not you, are the last line of defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    Off topic -

    Wonder if I can register grape vine/grapevine for my personal use? ..
    I was thinking that, too. So, that would be a different type of self-defense, eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Repeater View Post
    I was thinking that, too. So, that would be a different type of self-defense, eh?
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    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training. Archilochus, 650 BC

    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
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    That's so Gaye.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    Do not ask him if he supports X. Of course he does. As him what specific actions he plans to take to introduce legislation* for:

    State agency preemption!

    Followed by civil immunity if found not guity or not charged following a defensive shooting. Please do not screw this up by calling it "castle doctrine" or "stand your ground".

    While important, constitutional carry is much farther down on my list. It's also not politically "expedient" at the moment. (I know, unless we push it, when will it ever become politicaaly expedient?)

    stay safe.

    * Governors have historically filed bills, as well as "asked" party members to introduce bills for him.
    They won't answer those questions either ...

    No questions, please ... unless its for the address to send $$ too

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    Looks like the AG's office is set to argue that Commonwealth and Va. Tech have no duty to protect students:

    State gets appeal in Va. Tech lawsuit, plaintiffs shut out

    Students are in a real pickle if you couple this argument with the fact that they are essentially forbidden to possess the tools to defend themselves on campus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by optiksguy View Post
    Looks like the AG's office is set to argue that Commonwealth and Va. Tech have no duty to protect students:

    State gets appeal in Va. Tech lawsuit, plaintiffs shut out

    Students are in a real pickle if you couple this argument with the fact that they are essentially forbidden to possess the tools to defend themselves on campus.
    I see that as adding weight to our argument for the right of legal, honest people to defend themselves. The wheels do turn slowly though.
    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training. Archilochus, 650 BC

    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Repeater View Post
    That's so Gaye.
    Aah so, it is marvinalous.

    I do so detest that song almost as much as I do Tiptoe Through The Tulips......and that is a lot.
    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training. Archilochus, 650 BC

    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapeshot View Post
    This thread is related to OC or RKBA in VA how?
    sounds like ME.
    Carry On.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ed View Post
    sounds like ME.
    You're hearing things.

    Will be a most interesting dog fight between now and the elections this fall.
    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training. Archilochus, 650 BC

    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

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    Re: So, I hear through the grape vine..

    Well, the lunch didn't go as planned. He sent his assistant instead. The boss did most of the talking. Sorry guys.

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