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    HB1155 Chicago's carry bill

    Lets hope this does not pass. It is really a NO CARRY bill with some very scary amendments.

    Amendment 27 turns this into HB997, Brandon Phelps ( reasonable ) carry bill. All other amendments are Chicago silliness. Some are downright dangerous and unconstitutional.
    Last edited by kurt555gs; 02-26-2013 at 07:10 AM.

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    Hey all.. Haven't logged in for a while. Seen the thread & wanted to update it.
    Here's the latest from today..

    Interesting one that got in:
    Section 250-20. Issuance of licenses to carry a concealed firearm.

    (h) Any Illinois resident who has a license or permit to
    carry a handgun issued by another state shall be able to carry
    a handgun in accordance with this Act using that license for
    365 days following the effective date of this Act.
    Training requirements:

    Section 250-85. Applicant training.
    (a) Applicants shall provide proof of completion of at
    least one of the following courses:
    (1) National Rifle Association Basic Personal
    Protection In The Home Course.
    (2) National Rifle Association Basics of Personal
    Protection Outside The Home Course.
    (3) National Rifle Association Basic Pistol Shooting
    (4) Any other firearms training course of at least 6
    hours that covers the following:
    (A) handgun safety in the classroom, at home, on
    the firing range, and while carrying the firearm;
    (B) the basic principles of marksmanship;
    (C) care and cleaning of handguns;
    (D) laws relating to the justifiable use of force.
    (b) Applicants shall provide proof of certification by a
    certified instructor that the applicant passed a live fire
    exercise with a handgun consisting of:
    (1) a minimum of 30 rounds; and
    (2) 10 rounds from a distance of 5 yards, 10 rounds
    from a distance of 7 yards, and 10 rounds from a distance
    of 10 yards at a B-27 silhouette or equivalent target as
    approved by the Department.
    (b-5) Students may provide their own safe, functional
    handgun. The qualification shall be performed with
    factory-loaded ammunition.
    (b-6) Grades of "passing" shall not be given on range work

    to an applicant who:
    (1) does not follow the orders of the certified
    firearms instructor;
    (2) in the judgment of the certified firearms
    instructor, handles a firearm in a manner that poses a
    danger to the applicant or to others; or
    (3) during the testing portion of the range work fails
    to hit the silhouette portion of the target with 70% of the
    30 rounds fired.
    (c) The classroom portion of the course may, at the
    qualified firearms instructor's discretion, be divided into
    segments of not less than 2 hours each.
    (d) Instructors shall maintain all records for students'
    performance for not less than 5 years.
    (e) Certified firearms instructors shall:
    (1) allow monitoring of their classes by officials of
    any certifying agency;
    (2) make all course records available upon demand to
    authorized personnel of the Department; and
    (3) not divulge course records except as authorized by
    the certifying agency.
    (f) Fees for applicant training courses shall be set by the
    (g) An applicant training course shall not have more than
    40 students in the classroom portion nor more than 5 students
    per range officer engaged in range firing.

    (h) Persons with the following training or certifications
    are exempt from the requirements of subsection (a) of this
    (1) An National Rifle Association certified
    (2) An individual who has qualified to carry a firearm
    as a retired law enforcement officer.
    (3) Any active, retired, or honorably discharged
    member of the armed forces.
    (4) An individual certified as a law enforcement
    instructor by the Illinois Law Enforcement Training
    Standards Board or other equivalent agency.

    Section 250-90. Firearms instructors training.
    (a) Not later than 30 days after the effective date of this
    Act, the Department shall establish a registry of instructors
    who are eligible to teach courses or sign off on range
    qualifications, or both, to meet the requirements of Section
    250-85 of this Act.
    (b) Instructors who are eligible to teach courses and
    certify range qualifications shall have one of the following
    valid firearms instructor certifications:
    (1) National Rifle Association Personal Protection
    (2) National Rifle Association Basic Pistol

    (3) National Rifle Association Law Enforcement Firearm
    Instructor with a certification for handguns;
    (4) Certification from a firearms instructor's course
    offered by a State or federal governmental agency; or
    (5) A similar firearms instructor qualifying course
    approved by the Illinois Law Enforcement Training
    Standards Board.
    (c) Instructors who are eligible to teach courses and
    certify range qualifications shall be at least 21 years of age
    and possess at least a high school diploma or GED certificate.
    (d) An applicant may have his or her instructor
    qualification revoked if the applicant:
    (1) does not meet the requirements of this Act to
    possess a concealed firearms permit;
    (2) provides false or misleading information to the
    Board; or
    (3) has had a prior instructor qualification revoked by
    the Board or other certifying organization.

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    Re: HB1155 Chicago's carry bill

    At the end of the day we did as well as can be expected for Illinois. Amendment 27 got in. Restrictive, but still shall issue. The Chicago mob won on parking lots, near and adjacent whatever that means, and their big win ( our big loss ) Prohibition of carry on public transit.

    Could have been much worse.

    It was a long day.

    I don't know if Todd V reads this board, but I say thanks.

    Carthago Delenda Est

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    HB1155 Chicago's carry bill

    The list of places you can't go is a bit tedious lol. No private property without express permission ? Wtf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorcice View Post
    The list of places you can't go is a bit tedious lol. No private property without express permission ? Wtf.
    Saves on all those signs.

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    Oh, you have a right to carry, just like people in DC have a right to own a handgun. This is the "justice" the government courts dispense and this is the bill that I'll wager will pass. This is not any ordinary Amerikan (sic) state. This is Illinois.
    “If the natural tendencies of mankind are so bad that it is not safe to permit people to be free, how is it that the tendencies of these organizers are always good? Do not the legislators and their appointed agents also belong to the human race? Or do they believe that they themselves are made of a finer clay than the rest of mankind? ” -Bastiat

    I don't "need" to openly carry a handgun or own an "assault weapon" any more than Rosa Parks needed a seat on the bus.

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    Here is a list of bad amendments that passed

    From: " The website that shall not be named "

    Is this OK here? Linking to another firearms related website? Sorry, I'm new.

    One more thing. We in Illinois through a number of court cases NOT backed by the usual bunch had advanced " Container Transport " aka Fanny Pack carry ( unloaded ) to the point where the Illinois State Police had to change their website to actually state you could transport an unloaded firearm on your person with loaded magazines except in a limited number of protected areas.

    These new banned places DO NOT exempt firearms that are unloaded and enclosed in a case. So, in reality, because of the Chicago amendments, for me, it's a net loss.
    Last edited by kurt555gs; 02-27-2013 at 10:13 AM.

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    Because of "Q-Ball" Quinn's close ties with Chicago as well as his well known antigun actions, it is unlikely that any bill that reaches his desk will be signed. He may even try an "amendatory veto" on it like he did last summer to reinstate the AWB. The problem is that the Senate is unlikely to approve this bill without adding even more restrictions.

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    Re: HB1155 Chicago's carry bill

    The fight isn't over. Todd V with the NRA is a capable guy. There will be some compromise with the Chicago bunch, but it's not time to start crying just yet.

    Carthago Delenda Est

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