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    best buy in wilson

    well, a first occurred for me this afternoon...i was thrown out of Wilson's best buy by the 'section manager' of the GEEK Squad.

    i was trying to buy a floor model workstation and the sales lad couldn't answer my question so he went and got a manager and MikeD, intro'd himself as the 'section manager' of computers came over w/a whole bunch of attitude telling me they couldn't do what i was asking as they had to remove a 'sales' promo program installed on the machine and it would take two days to do so. When i pointed out that if he went to control panel, programs, they could delete it in about 15 minutes. then MikeD got even more defensive and stated his technician had to rearrange the registry and so forth and there was no way he was putting me in front of other customers just to accommodate me. he went on to state he was tired of playing 'GEEK one-up-man-ship with me!!' and "by the way guns are not allowed in the store and to please take it to the car if i wanted to finish the transaction". i smiled and thanked him and walked away to browse in the store for the other items i needed. got to the back and couldn't find what i was looking for so was walking down an aisle towards the exit and MikeD came screaming over 'i told you you were not welcome in the store w/that gun on!!" i smiled and said i was still shopping and his face got redder and his kept repeatedly telling me to leave with my gun...I asked what Best Buy's corporate policy was and he screamed 'he didn't care as it was his policy no guns and he was enforcing it'.

    i asked for the manager and was told he was the manager and i pointed out calmly he initially stated he was only the section manager of the GEEK squad as his name tag stated and i had left his area of responsibility. so could i speak to the manager? he then pronounced at the top of his lungs he was manager of the store for the day and to get out of his store...ok, if he professed to be the MOD, then i have been appropriately requested to leave...so i sauntered to towards the door with him screaming to leave with my gun. as he stood in the entrance way screaming to leave, i again calmly advised him it wasn't i who had violated the law...

    anyone have insight into appropriate way to contact best buy's corp weenies?

    Wabbit

    Ps: at no time did i mention they needed to put up a sign telling folk they are not welcome in best buy.

    Pps: MikeD almost made an error in judgement by grabbing my arm and pushing me towards the door...

    ppps: drove to garner and w/fiream on my side went to best buy spent my $1K for my workstation w/o anyone saying a word.
    Last edited by ncwabbit; 03-03-2013 at 05:52 PM.
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    best buy in wilson

    16122911000 corporate number as of 3 years ago when I worked there.

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    I'm sorry, the moment you were asked to leave and didn't you were committing trespass and could've been arrested. Not smart for you, really bad for the image of gun owners!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCBobD View Post
    I'm sorry, the moment you were asked to leave and didn't you were committing trespass and could've been arrested. Not smart for you, really bad for the image of gun owners!
    take a breath mate, by NC statutes (14‑159.11 - 13) in order to be arrested for trespass, i must remain on the property after asked to leave by someone in control of the property (14-159. 13(a)(1) and not some lowly clerk or lackey and if you will re-read my post, you will note MikeD initially stated he was manager of the GEEK squad as it stated on his name tag!

    therefore, he has no standing on control of the property at that point. however, if you would continue to re-read, when i, later in the encounter, asked for THE manager, he stated he was MOD! he, rightly or wrongly, then elevated himself to the position of responsible agent of the property and as noted in my post i departed!! therefore trespass did not occur in any way, shape, or form.

    as for the bad image of gun owners, twas not me screaming or throwing a hissy fit...he was!!

    http://www.ncleg.net/EnactedLegislat...ticle_22B.html

    wabbit

    ps: interestingly, the bloke standing next to me was CC'g...^_^

    pps: please a favor, in the future, the internet is your friend, therefore, ensure of the applicable guidance from the cite listed above before slinging misinformation...thanks!
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    But who prays for Satan? Who in eighteen centuries, has had the common humanity to pray for the one sinner that needed it most...
    A person who has for untold centuries maintained the imposing position of spiritual head of four-fifths of the human race...
    All religions issue bibles against him, and say the most injurious things about him, but we never hear his side. (twain)

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    Quote Originally Posted by KainVictus View Post
    16122911000 corporate number as of 3 years ago when I worked there.
    thanks mate...and perchance what was the policy then?

    wabbit
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    A person who has for untold centuries maintained the imposing position of spiritual head of four-fifths of the human race...
    All religions issue bibles against him, and say the most injurious things about him, but we never hear his side. (twain)

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    Ohio

    Here's a recent thread from Ohio:

    http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/sh...ns-in-best-buy

    BEST BUY's POLICY

    from Customer Contact <CustomerContact@bestbuy.com>
    to XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
    date Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 7:31 PM
    subject Best Buy Gun policy - XXXXXXXX
    mailed-by bestbuy.com

    Best Buy strives to comply with all applicable law and statues. Best Buy also strives to provide a safe and comfortable shopping environment for all our customers. Best Buy does not ban guns at our retail locations. As a general rule, Best Buy does not post “no guns allowed” signs in our stores and we are not aware of any individual stores that might have posted such a sign.

    and from Kentucky:

    http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/sh...dly-businesses

    Write Corporate and report MikeD.

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    DEf call corporate and raise a fuss
    Dont Just "let it go"
    Follow through the proper channels mate!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ncwabbit View Post
    thanks mate...and perchance what was the policy then?

    wabbit
    Wabbit- You might try calling their regional office and ask for the District Supervisor for that store and ask why someone would be put in charge of a multi-million dollar operation who does not care to follow corporate policies.

    "My District Managers name is Rob Serger and he can be reached at rob.serger@bestbuy.com or 216-849-6352."

    http://stores.bestbuy.com/1892/annou...eet-your-gm-2/

    If you don't get a decent answer from the District, might try calling HQ in Minn. But, the number on the web site probably goes directly to an intern in the basement and you may get one of the many canned responses available on the OC forum like this:

    "Dear Ryan,

    Thank you for contacting Best Buy regarding carrying concealed weapons in their stores. We do not ban handguns nor do we post ?no guns allowed? signs in any store location. Our approach to firearms is to comply with all state laws and to address each individual customer situation/scenario/concern as it arises. I do apologize if you were misinformed by one of our agents.


    Diane
    Purchase Support Team " http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/sh...-policy-change

    Contact Us

    Need immediate assistance?
    Please call or chat.
    1-888-BEST BUY
    (1-888-237-8289)

    Compliments or concerns?
    Please e-mail onlinestore@bestbuy.com
    Best Buy Corporate Customer Care
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    Wow- I just did a Google site search for the Open Carry Forum and amazingly, the first result shows that even their flagship store, just down the street from corporate HQ, even gets the policy wrong!

    https://www.google.com/search?num=10...rp.d2MgPuQqwXA


    Good Luck!

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    j-sin, ye of little faith, i have already called and calmly told corp how their manager reacted and handled the situation.

    initially, i was told by the gentleman who answered the corp fone, best buy DOES NOT allow firearms in their stores. when i asked what policy that was, i was told to wait a moment and 2 minutes later the gentleman corrected himself and read verbatim what B stated. I was informed BB has a policy that these types of complaints must be handed off to management for resolution after minimal note taking.

    i will advise what transpires over the next couple of days...

    wabbit

    ps: my goal is to get an apology from MikeD in the store w/my pistol on.
    But who prays for Satan? Who in eighteen centuries, has had the common humanity to pray for the one sinner that needed it most...
    A person who has for untold centuries maintained the imposing position of spiritual head of four-fifths of the human race...
    All religions issue bibles against him, and say the most injurious things about him, but we never hear his side. (twain)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ncwabbit View Post
    ..ps: my goal is to get an apology from MikeD in the store w/my pistol on.
    ..via the store's intercom.
    Last edited by FlyBoy276; 03-04-2013 at 03:45 PM. Reason: typo

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    Best Buy has some good stuff at decent prices. I do not shop there. I refuse to support a company who is known as a "platinum level" supporter of CAIR, which is recognized by the US as an organization that supports Hamas.

    When I did, I used to OC right on by the city cop working security at the door. No one in the store ever said a word to me.

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    Excellent!

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    Re: best buy in wilson

    Quote Originally Posted by ncwabbit View Post
    ..... technician had to rearrange the registry......
    I have been building, repairing, and servicing PCs for 25 years and I have never heard such a thing. :what:


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    Quote Originally Posted by 1HandClapin View Post
    I have been building, repairing, and servicing PCs for 25 years and I have never heard such a thing. :what:


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    Methinks that the "manager" knows not what he speaketh. :-) (said as another 20+ year techie)

    +1 to ncwabbit!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1HandClapin View Post
    I have been building, repairing, and servicing PCs for 25 years and I have never heard such a thing. :what:
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    my geekness goes back to vacuum tube computers to present and neither had i which is why i challenged him on it...

    wabbit...
    But who prays for Satan? Who in eighteen centuries, has had the common humanity to pray for the one sinner that needed it most...
    A person who has for untold centuries maintained the imposing position of spiritual head of four-fifths of the human race...
    All religions issue bibles against him, and say the most injurious things about him, but we never hear his side. (twain)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ncwabbit View Post
    my geekness goes back to vacuum tube computers to present and neither had i which is why i challenged him on it...

    wabbit...
    Geeks not wanting to try to out-geek another geek, is simply not a geek...maybe he was afraid of a Klingon promotion call in his department.
    If something is wrong for ONE person to do to another, it is still wrong if a BILLION people do it.

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    Way to go on keeping your cool. Sounds like you handled it most appropriately while the employee lost his cool and made himself look foolish. And yeah, I frequent the Best Buy at White Oak in Garner while open carrying and have never had any trouble.

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    since i haven't heard back in a week, i once again called corp and was told by the new CRep - supervisors do not call back customers when there is a complaint. therefore nothing occurred since my last call.

    the new customer service rep took notes AGAIN as he listened to my tale of woe and then stated: are you sure this occurred as you are stating? did you use that tone of voice as it sounds like you are very condescending! (explained it was the tone i used to discuss to best buy's manager who was so agitated he was spitting as he spoke) CRep - it was sounds like i need to get our attorneys involved? CRep what are your expectations? (training for mgr? and possibly an apology?) CRep - oh why don't you call the store and ask for the general manager's fone number and contact this individual directly? (advised this gentleman i tried but employees wouldn't give it to me stating they weren't allowed to give it out?) query back to CRep - do you have their number so i can contact them - 'i'm sorry i do not have it!" (really - you are a corp representative ??) query from me - why doesn't the CRep contact the DMgr and set up a meeting with myself, the Geek Sq Mgr and the DMgr to discuss the issue? CRep - they are very busy and that probably won't happen!

    28 minutes later i ended the logic circling call stating, two calls to corp were enough i would follow the concept if one person complains there are upwards of 20 ppl who do not but take their business elsewhere and tell their friends not to shop there also. I did not advise i was putting this tale out on a national forum nor did i say how many firearm carrying ppl i run across on a daily, weekly, monthly basis who will be bored as i tell them not to shop at this best buy store but rather drive the twenty miles down the road to the other one.

    wabbit
    Last edited by ncwabbit; 03-12-2013 at 05:04 PM.
    But who prays for Satan? Who in eighteen centuries, has had the common humanity to pray for the one sinner that needed it most...
    A person who has for untold centuries maintained the imposing position of spiritual head of four-fifths of the human race...
    All religions issue bibles against him, and say the most injurious things about him, but we never hear his side. (twain)

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    This makes me mad, they wont do anything but argue with you?
    No good information or resolution suggested.

    How did the call end? Do we need to get everyone on this site to start calling corporate?

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    Amazing story Wabbit. I have OC'd in the Wilson BB since it opened without issue. I don't work in Wilson anymore, but at least every two weeks I get my haircut down on Airport. Me thinks I need to take stroll through BB for some possible deals.
    "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
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    and get some of this recorded...
    If something is wrong for ONE person to do to another, it is still wrong if a BILLION people do it.

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    best buy in wilson

    I would definitely be willing to join a phone call party if they continue to be unwilling to resolve the issue....
    "When seconds count between living or dying, the police are only minutes away."

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    Quote Originally Posted by carolina guy View Post
    and get some of this recorded...
    Have fun. smh

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1HandClapin View Post
    I have been building, repairing, and servicing PCs for 25 years and I have never heard such a thing. :what:
    I concur with this. Been building/repairing/etc computers since 1988. Geek Squad are known to just be "disc spinners" now anyways.
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