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What if anything can be done about a leo taking your gun after you say you don't consent to an illegal seisure while being nazzi stopped ?
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Nice, glad you took the time to type "that" in. LOL, I didn't mean it to come off like that, sorry.Go talk to a lawyer.
I don't have personnal experiance with it. It just made me wonder why when someone is stopped illegally they stand their ground on everything else, but the police just egnore that right. I was just wondering, not a big deal to me, I was just making an observation. I'm just tring to learn. I'm not tring to start anything, I just thought this would be a good place to ask.Go talk to a lawyer. You may have a cause for a 42 USC 1983 action.
In Michigan 1983 actions have been prosecuted and settlements made by law enforcement agencies.
I don't have personnal experiance with it. It just made me wonder why when someone is stopped illegally they stand their ground on everything else, but the police just egnore that right. I was just wondering, not a big deal to me, I was just making an observation. I'm just tring to learn. I'm not tring to start anything, I just thought this would be a good place to ask.
I didn't mean it that way, I reread it and it does sound like it though. I should have put this guy on there.:banana: I changed the post.And thats fine, and we're happy to answer your questions. However, when someone, as Doug did, does give you an answer, you probably shouldn't react so harshly. 'Go talk to a lawyer' was not a sarcastic comment, it was, in fact, the only solution. They are accountable for breaking the law, and in order to hold them accountable, you will likely need the assistance of a lawyer.
And thats fine, and we're happy to answer your questions. However, when someone, as Doug did, does give you an answer, you probably shouldn't react so harshly. 'Go talk to a lawyer' was not a sarcastic comment, it was, in fact, the only solution.
casper perhaps could have asked appropriate followup questions, instead of the way he responded. However, we--the experienced guys here--can be better at providing a little more complete answers.
We don't just have to say, "Find a lawyer". We're better than that, because we are one of the "go to" websites for such information. Not only do we know to go to a lawyer, we know of a few lawyers who are really good firearms-related litigators.
To my experienced friends here: let's be a little more helpful.
casper, here are a few attorneys who specialize in firearms law and are good:
Dean Greenblatt
Jim Simmons
Steve Dulan
You should be able to web search and find their office contact info. They may be able to help, or recommend someone else who can. If you have trouble getting in contact with them, let us know.
Yes, they are accountable for breaking the law. You, as the wronged citizen must hold that cop accountable. The legality of the seizure must be resolved via the courts. Any attempt to exert your rights, physically, will always go very badly for the citizen. On the street the cop has the power of the state to wield if he chooses to wield that power, rightly or wrongly. In a courtroom you too have the power of the state to wield.Ok, I'll put it another way. Are they accountable for breaking the law ? Has anything ever been done, or do we just let them break the laws that they are supposed to uphold ? If they can't legally do it, why do we not have a way to combat it ? Or is it just one of those thing we just have to except. I personally don't care if they hold on to it, but it seams like they are slapping us in the face when they do it, with the what are you gonna do about it attitude.
casper perhaps could have asked appropriate followup questions, instead of the way he responded. However, we--the experienced guys here--can be better at providing a little more complete answers.
We don't just have to say, "Find a lawyer". We're better than that, because we are one of the "go to" websites for such information. Not only do we know to go to a lawyer, we know of a few lawyers who are really good firearms-related litigators.
To my experienced friends here: let's be a little more helpful.
casper, here are a few attorneys who specialize in firearms law and are good:
Dean Greenblatt
Jim Simmons
Steve Dulan
You should be able to web search and find their office contact info. They may be able to help, or recommend someone else who can. If you have trouble getting in contact with them, let us know.
What if anything can be done about a leo taking your gun after you say you don't consent to an illegal seisure while being nazzi stopped ?
What if anything can be done about a leo taking your gun after you say you don't consent to an illegal seisure while being nazzi stopped ?
Yes Sir, I see the videos, and the police just egnore the person, when they do not consent to it.I'm guessing this is hypothetical?