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Thread: Senate bill SB286 shall issue, vehicle carry, premption etc.

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    Senate bill SB286 shall issue, vehicle carry, premption etc.

    This bill, mostly pushed by BamaCarry, will be in committe on Tuesday at 11am. It's on a "fast track" and there will be no testimony from anyone at that time. It's due to hit the Senate floor the same day at 1pm. Don't miss out on this bill! It's not perfect but it will do a lot. Look it up your self but here's a few of the things it will do, make it legal to have your gun in a Private parking lot as owners can't restrict you from having one there, make vehicle carry with out a permit legal, remove 13a-11-52, & 59, Make it perfectly clear open carry is legal, add to the disorderly conduct code lauguage perventing it being used for someone openly carrying a weapon, put more teeth in exemption, make permits cost the same across the state and make us a shall issue state. There's more but you get the picture here.

    Wanna help? Call your senators and tell them you support SB286, or Beason's bill. After it gets out of the senate then we must tackle the house. This is our time let's make it count as best we can.

    Eddie Fulmer Founding member of BamaCarry.

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    If you want folks to follow your advice to read the bill, you really ought to post a link to it.

    Here is one: http://legiscan.com/AL/text/SB286/2013

    On the surface, the bill seems to fix everything I disliked about Alabama gun law. I do have two reservations. First, the law does complicate the hell outta things. One benefit Alabama law had over Ohio law was that, with the exception of the confusion created by -52, Alabama law was eminently understandable. This bill changes that considerably with tons of exceptions and exceptions to exceptions. It is beginning to look like Ohio law. Yuck.

    Second, preemption was done pretty danged well in the old law. The new law needs to be examined closely to ensure that cities won't have loopholes in that complicated mess that allow them to criminalize some facets of carry. I need several more hours of reading and ten times as much discussion before I will say that the new preemption is anywhere near as good as the old one.

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    Do it

    Well take some vacation time and do it

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    Eye, you are correct that the new bill has too many exceptions. These are compromise language, much like the subordinate clause in the 2nd Amendment. The main problem is that the Alabama Sheriff's Association has done everything in their power to block this bill. Mostly, they whine to the legislature and misrepresent the bill to anyone else who will listen. So far, their petty fear-mongering has generated little to no response from the general populace, but they still have considerable clout in the legislature.

    We're going to have to remind our elected representatives that We The People hold the ballots, and the ASA can't do a thing to keep them in office.

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    The name of the game in Alabama politics has been, for many years, "Who has the most money/influence with the people?"
    It has also been the goal of certain segments of our society (Alabama only, although it may be true elsewhere) to keep the majority uneducated, especially as concerns their rights.

    In Alabama politics, the Alabama Sheriffs' Association and the Alabama Education Association have long been two of the major players. You can add two other groups into that mix; the Alabama Ministerial Association (especially the Alabama Baptist part of it) and the Alabama Farmer's Association (ALFA).

    These various organizations, to put it mildly, scratch each other's back. Guess why we still have "dry" counties in Alabama. Guess why teachers are not required to take competency tests. You could go on in this vein for some time and touch on a lot of things that, IMNSHO, place Alabama back in the fifties and early sixties in a lot of areas.

    In my sixty-nine years in this state, I have seen liars, rascals, and outright criminals elected to public office. In my lifetime, there have been at least two governors convicted of felonies and there probably should have been many more.

    For what it is worth, Deacon Blues, the Sheriffs' Association can do more than you would probably believe to keep their cronies in office. I can still remember, as a boy, sheriff's deputies, in a county I won't name, bribing voters with pints of whiskey!! This in a "dry" county. And that is only one example. Those who would remain in power have gotten a tad more sophisticated, is all.
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    I urge you to take a look at the video I just put up on youtube. It's a rebuttal for 286 for the ASA

    www.youtube.com/user/bamacarry

    Be good if some would share it elsewhere.
    Last edited by Eddie Fulmer; 03-12-2013 at 02:01 AM.

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