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    Anti-gun Insurance Co. State Farm

    Noticed this as I entered a State Farm building last Friday here in Arizona. I don't do business with anti-gun companies, but I let it slide this time since it's costing them tens of thousands of dollars due to the fool that they are insuring who cannot drive.
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    Anti-gun Insurance Co. State Farm

    I think that may be the local agent, my SF agent here in MO is a gun guy and no posting on his office at all


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    Quote Originally Posted by McLintock View Post
    I think that may be the local agent, my SF agent here in MO is a gun guy and no posting on his office at all


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    I agree. Mine's not posted and I know he hunts too.
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    my agent is neutral, and all his employees are anti, but no sign posted there. I OC into their office, and occasionally I get some funky looks, but noone says anything either
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    Quote Originally Posted by motoxmann View Post
    my agent is neutral, and all his employees are anti, but no sign posted there. I OC into their office, and occasionally I get some funky looks, but noone says anything either
    Of course they don't say anything... the last thing they want to do is set off some "gun carrying lunatic" (but they don't refuse your premium payment for insuring your guns!) Pax...
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    Quote Originally Posted by gil223 View Post
    of course they don't say anything... The last thing they want to do is set off some "gun carrying lunatic" (but they don't refuse your premium payment for insuring your guns!) pax...
    lol!

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    Re: Anti-gun Insurance Co. State Farm

    Their corporate offices here in Ohio has that same sign.

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    But ... a firearm is not a weapon. It's an insurance policy. Surely they should understand that.

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    My Allstate agent, a very lovely young lady, and her staff are more curious about what I am carrying than anything else. They were also more concerned with the well-being of myself and my wife after our two break-ins than they were with anything else.

    Yeah, I know they want my money, but they always have time to just sit and talk with this garrulous old man.

    Oh, yeah. Some years back, I had a State Farm customer, during one of infrequent snow storms, plow into the back of my vehicle. State Farm, even after having paid me for the accident, sent letters asking me to pay for their customer's damage. Not bloody likely and that isn't the half of what I told them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Trickster View Post
    Noticed this as I entered a State Farm building last Friday here in Arizona. I don't do business with anti-gun companies, but I let it slide this time since it's costing them tens of thousands of dollars due to the fool that they are insuring who cannot drive.
    The corporate owned/leased buildings will be posted according to state laws. Agents are free to post or not, they are independent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redbaron007 View Post
    The corporate owned/leased buildings will be posted according to state laws. Agents are free to post or not, they are independent.
    This was a corporate owned/leased building and not an individual agent's office. It is also located in Arizona, where OC/CC are completely legal and we have Constitutional Carry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Trickster View Post
    This was a corporate owned/leased building and not an individual agent's office. It is also located in Arizona, where OC/CC are completely legal and we have Constitutional Carry.
    It's not about leagllity...it's a matter of legal control on their property. Who's rights prevail on their property....yours or theirs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redbaron007 View Post
    It's not about leagllity...it's a matter of legal control on their property. Who's rights prevail on their property....yours or theirs?
    Please....tell me more about this thing you call "property" and the "rights" associated with it, as I am entirely unaware of it.

    The point is that even though you claimed their corporate owned/leased offices will be posted according to state law, that they don't. By mentioning Arizona laws concerning carry, I was not implying that I can carry on private property regardless of what the controller of said property wishes, but to cite the fact that carry is completely legal in Arizona and that State Farm does not follow state law on the matter, despite your claim to the contrary.

    Any questions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Trickster View Post
    Please....tell me more about this thing you call "property" and the "rights" associated with it, as I am entirely unaware of it.

    The point is that even though you claimed their corporate owned/leased offices will be posted according to state law, that they don't. By mentioning Arizona laws concerning carry, I was not implying that I can carry on private property regardless of what the controller of said property wishes, but to cite the fact that carry is completely legal in Arizona and that State Farm does not follow state law on the matter, despite your claim to the contrary.

    Any questions?
    If state/local law requires posting to prohibit carrying (which would be legal) weapons (as defined) onto 'their' controlled property, it will be done within the confines of what the laws of the state require. If State Farm doesn't want that right exercised on their property, are they within their right to do so? So if they are within their right, then it is legal...not illegal.

    Ones ability to exercise their right is not carte blanche. The controller of said real-estate can restrict activities of invitees unless prohibited by law, which is legal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redbaron007 View Post
    Questions?
    Just one: Why are you trying so hard to avoid admitting that you were wrong?

    It's obvious when you stated, "The corporate owned/leased buildings will be posted according to state laws." that you meant all of these buildings will allow carry if it is legal per state law, just like Starbucks, Walmart, etc. It is a common analogy to make and one that has a universal meaning. Yet, once I clarified that the photo I posted was indeed from a corporate owned/leased building, you began to drone on and on about private property rights in a pathetic attempt to backpedal and change your story to save yourself from what I can only surmise as the pseudo-humiliation of being incorrect on the Internet. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Trickster View Post
    Just one: Why are you trying so hard to avoid admitting that you were wrong?

    It's obvious when you stated, "The corporate owned/leased buildings will be posted according to state laws." that you meant all of these buildings will allow carry if it is legal per state law, just like Starbucks, Walmart, etc. It is a common analogy to make and one that has a universal meaning. Yet, once I clarified that the photo I posted was indeed from a corporate owned/leased building, you began to drone on and on about private property rights in a pathetic attempt to backpedal and change your story to save yourself from what I can only surmise as the pseudo-humiliation of being incorrect on the Internet. lol
    Actually, your reading and comprehension ability don't go together. Your assumption was incorrect. You questioned what I wrote...I clarified what I initially for your limited understanding, and now because you assumed wrong, it's someone else misunderstanding. Life must be very interesting in that cavity on your shoulders.

    It's quite obvious you when you can't comprehend someone's comments.....you loose your ability to intelligently converse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redbaron007 View Post
    It's quite obvious you when you can't comprehend someone's comments.....you loose your ability to intelligently converse.
    I don't think someone who can't differentiate between "lose" and "loose" is in any position to be judging my ability to intelligently converse. Are you another one of these people I keep meeting online who went to "collage" instead of college?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Trickster View Post
    I don't think someone who can't differentiate between "lose" and "loose" is in any position to be judging my ability to intelligently converse. Are you another one of these people I keep meeting online who went to "collage" instead of college?
    Spell check......blame Bill Gates since you seem to have the idea you are all knowing and perfect.

    I guess when you roll with pigs one gets mud and stink on themselves....I've learned that lesson....you are not one to intellectually converse with; I don't like the way pigs smell. Please feel free to interpret any way you wish.
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    The proper response to someone spelling "lose" as "loose" is to say to them, "Your an idiot."

    I am really afraid someone is going to take this post seriously. It is a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redbaron007 View Post
    Spell check......blame Bill Gates since you seem to have the idea you are all knowing and perfect.

    I guess when you roll with pigs one gets mud and stink on themselves....I've learned that lesson....you are not one to intellectually converse with; I don't like the way pigs smell. Please feel free to interpret any way you wish.
    Your little hissy fit, laden with elementary school style name-calling, is truly breaking my heart. With that in mind, please tell me more about intellectual conversation, your eminence.

    The fact remains that you got caught spreading drivel and then got called out when you tried to backpedal your way out of it. The good news? Life goes on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Trickster View Post
    Your little hissy fit, laden with elementary school style name-calling, is truly breaking my heart. With that in mind, please tell me more about intellectual conversation, your eminence.

    The fact remains that you got caught spreading drivel and then got called out when you tried to backpedal your way out of it. The good news? Life goes on.

    Is this the best you can do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redbaron007 View Post
    Is this the best you can do?
    No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Trickster View Post
    No.
    Please continue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redbaron007 View Post
    Please continue.
    Pass.

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    Flame wars ftw :eyeroll:

    So, do you think that if I'm in a position to easily use an insurance company other than State Farm, I should in support of carry rights? Is it relavant to that decision that the sign in question wouldn't mean diddly (legally) where I live?

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