So you are sitting in your University law class and.............

slapmonkay · Mar 8, 2013

gogodawgs said:
What people should be considering in light of this story is...

Where do you sit in class, a restaurant, movie theater?

Where is the nearest exit?

Where is the nearest cover?

Do you carry pepper spray?

Do you approach the person and restrain them?

I always consider most of these things every time I sit down somewhere. It has become second nature almost.

gogodawgs · Mar 8, 2013

slapmonkay said:
I always consider most of these things every time I sit down somewhere. It has become second nature almost.

Many of you have sat with me at coffee or a restaurant and know that I will almost certainly have the most advantagous view of the room.

Some of you have seen me put my hand over my daughter's eyes and ask them where the nearest exits are and blindfolded they can tell you. It was second nature long ago when I grew up and it is now for my girls. I encourage others to do the same with your spouse and children.

sudden valley gunner · Mar 9, 2013

gogodawgs said:
Many of you have sat with me at coffee or a restaurant and know that I will almost certainly have the most advantagous view of the room.

Some of you have seen me put my hand over my daughter's eyes and ask them where the nearest exits are and blindfolded they can tell you. It was second nature long ago when I grew up and it is now for my girls. I encourage others to do the same with your spouse and children.

One time when I was quite young my cousins and I were making jokes about the blind, so our Uncle challenged us to be blindfolded most of a day. It was a great learning moment, One cousin and I lasted most the day. The things you can learn by covering up your eyes for a while is amazing. And because of that experience I don't turn on lights at night and walk my house blind as much as I can. It is a good thing to know your areas, without sight.

EMNofSeattle · Mar 9, 2013

But when there's a group of OCers they should position to cover each other's blind spots. at Fed Way Nick does sit so he can watch the main door, but the back door to the starbucks (which was unlocked when I was there at least) was at Nick's back. I think a smart active shooter at least will pop in through the back door to catch more people unaware.... so when there's a group one person should be facing each threat direction....

amlevin · Mar 10, 2013

EMNofSeattle said:
Running around yelling while turning over furniture isn't reasonable fear of grave bodily harm?

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If that was all the justification needed then a good number of late night Party Goer's in Seattle could be legally shot.

Answer here is "LEAVE". If he follows, and attacks, then you'd be justified in Self Defense.

devldogs55 · Mar 11, 2013

Jeff Hayes said:
EMNofSeattle said:

Keys and cell phones are also normally kept in pockets.

Click to expand...

I was just about to say the same thing. Try explaining yourself when you're asked why you shot the guy...

"He flipped a desk over and put his hands in his pockets with a really mean look in his eye!"

I agree it's cause for alarm, but as it turns out a 911 call and some diligence paid off and in that case I don't believe I would have done much more. If he attempted to harm someone without any weapon I would have likely thrown a desk at his head.

Shooting someone in defense of myself or others is something I have no problem with and would not hesitate to do if necessary. It is a LAST RESORT. Take a look at escalation of force procedures and either match their hostility or one up them - don't just go straight for the gun... That is NOT what it's for.

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