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    Hello!

    Hi everyone,

    I am new to the world of firearms and this site (although I have been reading a TON of posts on here and have found lots of great information) and was hoping that maybe you guys could give me a hand choosing my first handgun. I have placed a P238 on layaway but was also shown a Bersa .380. Which would you choose? keep in mind i have very small hands!

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    No experience with either gun, but there is a whole forum section dedicated to choosing a gun, may get a wider audience there then in the state forum.

    Welcome!

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    Ok, thank you!

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    I've never been a fan of 380's for self defense but if that's all you can handle (and thats the big thing) then great. Shoot the crap out of it. Being a FFL I've sold more of the Sig P238's for the 380 crowd then anything else. Its a Sig, what more can you say about it.

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    Welcome to OCDO!
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    @ Walking Wolf, Thanks!!

    @WTFover, I went back to the store tonight and actually purchased a Bersa BP9cc! Although I hope to get a Sig when the funds become available!

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    Welcome! IMO, the 380 is plenty. I have been known to carry a 22, but my main carry is a 9mm. Like my great departed LEO freind once told me "nobody wants to get shot with anything".

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    Thanks! I spent a few hours at the store last night with a really knowledgeable salesman who also happens to teach a CC class and with his help I purchased a Bersa BP9cc. They didn't have the .380 in stock and he couldn't tell me when they would be getting some in. I will admit that the P238 felt better in my hand but the BP9 felt pretty good too and a $200+ cheaper it was an easy decision for me. I do have a bit of difficulty racking the slide, (I have pretty bad tendinitis in my elbows, left being worse than right) but I was assured that with use it would soften up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saltycupcake View Post
    Thanks! I spent a few hours at the store last night with a really knowledgeable salesman who also happens to teach a CC class and with his help I purchased a Bersa BP9cc. They didn't have the .380 in stock and he couldn't tell me when they would be getting some in. I will admit that the P238 felt better in my hand but the BP9 felt pretty good too and a $200+ cheaper it was an easy decision for me. I do have a bit of difficulty racking the slide, (I have pretty bad tendinitis in my elbows, left being worse than right) but I was assured that with use it would soften up.
    How are you holding the slide to rack it.?

    My main concern with racking a slide is to keep it in a safe direction. It just happens that seems to me to be the least effort to rack. I put my weak hand over the top of the slide to rack the slide, and grip with my thumb and fingers, while keeping the gun in safe direction. I have cringed watching other people rack slides pointing them in all directions including at their own feet, trying to grab the slide from the rear. Also when clearing the gun if you rack the slide over hand it will drop the round through the bottom of the magazine well without throwing it and then having to search for it.
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    With the pistol pointed at the ground (not my feet!) I put my left hand over top of the pistol and slide it back, pulling it towards me. Is this the wrong way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saltycupcake View Post
    With the pistol pointed at the ground (not my feet!) I put my left hand over top of the pistol and slide it back, pulling it towards me. Is this the wrong way?
    As long as you can rack it and keep it in a safe direction you are doing it the right way. It sounds like you rack it the same way I do, but I usually do not rack the slide that often. Only when I clear the weapon, and when I load the weapon. Once your spring breaks in it should get easier to rack.
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    I would recommend the Beretta PX4 Storm in 9mm with either the full size or compact (not the sub-compact!!!). My wife loves it. The barrel works on rotation during recoil and the barrel has been lowered a bit. This causes the recoil to be forced into the palm more than trying to flip the muzzle up through the wrist.
    Once she shot this pistol (compact size) during a day of rentals to find one she liked, it was no question it was the one she wanted and then bought.
    You never mentioned if you was a male or female, but did say you have small hands, and some tendinitis, so thats why I am using her experience, she has small hands and weak wrists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkingWolf View Post
    How are you holding the slide to rack it.?

    My main concern with racking a slide is to keep it in a safe direction. It just happens that seems to me to be the least effort to rack. I put my weak hand over the top of the slide to rack the slide, and grip with my thumb and fingers, while keeping the gun in safe direction. I have cringed watching other people rack slides pointing them in all directions including at their own feet, trying to grab the slide from the rear. Also when clearing the gun if you rack the slide over hand it will drop the round through the bottom of the magazine well without throwing it and then having to search for it.
    I agree, I am not a big fan of indoor ranges or firing line ranges. The situation of safe direction while racking the slide is one of my pet peeves. Many people don't recognize they "sweep" the person or persons next to them while racking the slide. My wife is fairly new to handguns and I am currently training her the proper and safe way to chamber her rounds. Good point WalkingWolf.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by merc460 View Post
    I would recommend the Beretta PX4 Storm in 9mm with either the full size or compact (not the sub-compact!!!). My wife loves it. The barrel works on rotation during recoil and the barrel has been lowered a bit. This causes the recoil to be forced into the palm more than trying to flip the muzzle up through the wrist.
    Once she shot this pistol (compact size) during a day of rentals to find one she liked, it was no question it was the one she wanted and then bought.
    You never mentioned if you was a male or female, but did say you have small hands, and some tendinitis, so thats why I am using her experience, she has small hands and weak wrists.
    I will look and see if they have the Beretta when I go on Tuesday to pick up the Bersa. Any idea what the price point on that would be? Unfortunately, thats a consideration for me. Oh, and I'm a woman

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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkingWolf View Post
    As long as you can rack it and keep it in a safe direction you are doing it the right way. It sounds like you rack it the same way I do, but I usually do not rack the slide that often. Only when I clear the weapon, and when I load the weapon. Once your spring breaks in it should get easier to rack.
    I really know so little about them that I plan on taking a few classes to learn as much as I can. Having been the victim of a violent crime on 2 separate occasions, I refuse to be a victim again. Ive been wanting to purchase a pistol for awhile, but as we lived in NJ I wasn't really able to do that. Finally moved south to NC (thankfully!!) and I am now able to get my CHP if I want or to OC if I want to do that too.

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    If you find your current method of racking the slide difficult, then try an alternate: Grip the slide normally (overhand, your thumb closest to your body) then instead of trying to move the slide to the rear, simply hold it in position and use your grip/trigger hand to push the frame forward. You accomplish the exact same thing as before but this may be easier for you.
    Last edited by bc.cruiser; 03-09-2013 at 11:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saltycupcake View Post
    I really know so little about them that I plan on taking a few classes to learn as much as I can. Having been the victim of a violent crime on 2 separate occasions, I refuse to be a victim again. Ive been wanting to purchase a pistol for awhile, but as we lived in NJ I wasn't really able to do that. Finally moved south to NC (thankfully!!) and I am now able to get my CHP if I want or to OC if I want to do that too.
    It will take you a while to get your CHP, seems some sheriffs depts are way behind. Unless you can show that you have exigent circumstance and then they will issue a permit faster. This would be like a person being stalked, then the process gets bumped up. Did your problems take place in NC or NJ? If they were here then you may be able to get your permit expedited.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bc.cruiser View Post
    If you find your current method of racking the slide difficult, then try an alternate: Grip the slide normally (overhand, your thumb closest to your body) then instead of trying to move the slide to the rear, simply hold it in position and use your grip/trigger hand to push the frame forward. You accomplish the exact same thing as before but this may be easier for you.

    good idea! I'll try it and see which one works best! Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkingWolf View Post
    It will take you a while to get your CHP, seems some sheriffs depts are way behind. Unless you can show that you have exigent circumstance and then they will issue a permit faster. This would be like a person being stalked, then the process gets bumped up. Did your problems take place in NC or NJ? If they were here then you may be able to get your permit expedited.

    They happened in NJ, I am so glad to be out of that state!! Im not in any hurry to get my CHP, because I can OC here. But it is something that I will be getting when I can.

    On another note, there were some goings on at my next door neighbors house Thursday night. 5 police cars, CSI and an ambulance. Found out last night that someone broke into the house while my neighbors were home and robbed them at gunpoint. They stole a bunch of stuff and I guess someone got hurt because the report said "aggravated assault, housebreaking and larceny" and 2 doors were damaged in the process, the side door and a bedroom door. The case is still pending, so I assume they haven't caught the guy. I cannot wait til Tuesday when I can pick up my permit and go get my Bersa!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saltycupcake View Post
    They happened in NJ, I am so glad to be out of that state!! Im not in any hurry to get my CHP, because I can OC here. But it is something that I will be getting when I can.

    On another note, there were some goings on at my next door neighbors house Thursday night. 5 police cars, CSI and an ambulance. Found out last night that someone broke into the house while my neighbors were home and robbed them at gunpoint. They stole a bunch of stuff and I guess someone got hurt because the report said "aggravated assault, housebreaking and larceny" and 2 doors were damaged in the process, the side door and a bedroom door. The case is still pending, so I assume they haven't caught the guy. I cannot wait til Tuesday when I can pick up my permit and go get my Bersa!
    That sounds like Durham, LOL. But could be Fayettnam also...
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    I live in Winston!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saltycupcake View Post
    I live in Winston!
    OK, I don't hear as much about Winston as I do Fayetteville, and Durham.
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    I live in a good, middle class neighborhood (that does have a lot of rental properties. Old tobacco money bought multiple properties for investment) with an upscale country club down the road. People jog and walk the streets constantly. Last year, superbowl Sunday, someone got into our car and stole the DVD players we had for the kids and some other small stuff. A few days later I had some strange people show up on my doorstep for a few different reasons. Got the hairs on the back of my neck up. Called the police to report everything and was told that there really wasnt anything they could do. Which I knew before calling. Now with the latest crap next door, I cant tell you how relieved I am to be able to protect myself and my family if needed. I hope to God it never comes to that but knowing my husband (former military) has his rifle and I have my Bersa goes a long way to peace of mind.

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