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    Gun Store Recomendations

    I know that the mailing address on a drivers license issue has been covered in a previous thread; but I need a FFL/ Gun shop recommendation in the Hampton Roads area where they actually know how to read the form 4473 (Background Check Form); including the instructions for section 20 B. "alternate Documentation" http://www.atf.gov/forms/download/atf-f-4473-1.pdf

    I recently bought a gun at the Richmond gun show by using my Virginia driver’s license (with a mailing address), CHP with my home address and my apartment lease; but the FFL there doesn’t have a store and only works gun shows. I explained my situation to the guy at Davisons Discount Firearms in Norfolk as I might need a FFL transfer in the future and he understood the form correctly, but unfortunately his selection of in-store guns was greatly depleted due to the recent gun rush. He was also a nice guy, which is somewhat rare in the gun business. So I am looking for a store in the Hampton Roads area that:
    1. Is stocked
    2. Has employees that know how to read.
    3. I would also prefer to give my money to nice friendly people who appreciate the business, but I know that often isn’t an option.

    PS If no such store exists in Hampton roads I would be willing to go as far as Richmond for purchases.
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    Green Top just north of Richmond, or Degoeffs sort of east of Richmond - with the weight on Green Top.

    As for finding a stocked gun store (guns or ammo) - good luck! The internet, fast phone calls with credit card in hand, and a willingness to pay transfer fees may be your only bet for quite some time. Know what you are looking for, and how to tell the difference between NIB and LNIB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skidmark View Post
    Green Top just north of Richmond, or Degoeffs sort of east of Richmond - with the weight on Green Top.

    As for finding a stocked gun store (guns or ammo) - good luck! The internet, fast phone calls with credit card in hand, and a willingness to pay transfer fees may be your only bet for quite some time. Know what you are looking for, and how to tell the difference between NIB and LNIB.

    stay safe.
    Greentops is your best bet and as Skid said, good luck looking for stocked.

    Item three knocks DeGoffs out.

    3. I would also prefer to give my money to nice friendly people who appreciate the business, but I know that often isnít an option.
    I quit dealing with them 40 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    Greentops is your best bet and as Skid said, good luck looking for stocked.

    Item three knocks DeGoffs out.



    I quit dealing with them 40 years ago.
    peter i think its different management now than 40yrs ago a lot has changed since then , Neal(owner), Joe(his son), and Gray(manager?) are all good to deal with. have only ever got marginal service from one guy who didn't stick around there very long. Tim(now at CSA) had to save him from Kim as the defconKim countdown had started. luckily nuclear winter was averted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 67GT390FB View Post
    peter i think its different management now than 40yrs ago a lot has changed since then , Neal(owner), Joe(his son), and Gray(manager?) are all good to deal with. have only ever got marginal service from one guy who didn't stick around there very long. Tim(now at CSA) had to save him from Kim as the defconKim countdown had started. luckily nuclear winter was averted.
    Neal is Rodney's son and as I recall he was as big a D6&k as his father.....but, I am working an a statute of limitations on grudges Maybe 45 years

    Come to think of it, it was Neal that started the initial trouble. North American Arms Mini Derringers went through a phase when 3 out of 4 of them were out of time. I was looking at one and cocked it to see if it locked up. Neal said "Please don't cock the firearms". I said "I want to make sure it's in time before I buy it", Neal said "Please don't cock the firearms"....

    that started a discussion with Rodney that required I go to church two weeks in a row.

    I did buy a NAM that day....at a place in Goochland called Va. Muzzleloaders and haven't been back to DeGoffs since.
    The poor fellow at Va. Muzzleloaders didn't last long either. He was a retired Farmer who was always drunk. One day apparently he passed out drunk and died of the heat in the store

    Nope, I'm wrong...I bought it at Greentops that day. The one at Va Muzzleloading was aew years later. Memory is getting bad.
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    There may be another gun shop opening up soon in Henrico County......a little birdie once told me....
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    Is it not possible to buy your gun from Greentop for example and ask that they transfer it to a store in Hampton that knows how to process the paperwork correctly?

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    Try Winfree Firearms in Grafton (http://local.yahoo.com/details?id=12842181).

    I've been doing business there for a while, and have been treated very well.

    If you call, ask to speak with Susan or Bill.
    A law-abiding citizen should be able to carry his personal protection firearm anywhere that an armed criminal might go.

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    There's also Gadsden's Guns in Hanover Co.
    http://www.vaguntrader.com/forums/ub...167#Post489167

    The owners are good people......

    There's also these two in Culpeper:
    Immortal Arms
    We are by appointment...please don't just "drop" by, we may be out on the range and unable to assist you.

    http://immortalarms.com/

    and

    Hansohn Brothers
    http://store.HansohnBrothers.com

    and this one:


    DK firearms
    at: sales@dkfirearms.com
    based in Milford, VA (between Richmond and Fredericksburg in Caroline County). We operate on an appointment only basis out of our Milford location, and travel to most of the gun shows in Virginia.


    The the above are owned/run by VCDL members or I wouldn't tell you about them.
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    I got my gun at Degoeffs and had a very good experience there. Oddly enough, I lived just upstairs of Rodney for a year so I can see how he could have put someone off of the store while he was working there. Fortunately, he no longer works there to my knowledge.
    I am speaking of myself. Even that is too much for me. How can I be expected to speak of all men at once, and satisfy them too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GDBaum View Post
    I got my gun at Degoeffs and had a very good experience there. Oddly enough, I lived just upstairs of Rodney for a year so I can see how he could have put someone off of the store while he was working there. Fortunately, he no longer works there to my knowledge.
    Rodney owned DeGoffs and is no longer with us.

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    Wait a minute... the FFL does NOT have a store and only sells at gun shows? That's illegal! It's a condition of the license that one have a regular brick-and-mortar storefront with regular business hours, a local business license, occupancy permit, and zoning approval. Sounds like a complaint to BATFE to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by user View Post
    Wait a minute... the FFL does NOT have a store and only sells at gun shows? That's illegal! It's a condition of the license that one have a regular brick-and-mortar storefront with regular business hours, a local business license, occupancy permit, and zoning approval. Sounds like a complaint to BATFE to me.
    I could probably name half a dozen gun show dealers who don't have a brick and mortar storefront.
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    Re: Gun Store Recomendations

    Revolver armorer is in Suffolk. Heard good things about them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peter nap View Post
    Rodney owned DeGoffs and is no longer with us.
    Were there two Rodneys, maybe his grandson? The one I lived above was something like in his late 20s. He said his family owned the store and that he worked there for a time.

    EDIT: I'm currently living in the apartment that the Rodney I knew had. I checked one of the letters we still get that are addressed to him. His name's Rodney Atkinson.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GDBaum View Post
    Were there two Rodneys, maybe his grandson? The one I lived above was something like in his late 20s. He said his family owned the store and that he worked there for a time.

    EDIT: I'm currently living in the apartment that the Rodney I knew had. I checked one of the letters we still get that are addressed to him. His name's Rodney Atkinson.
    The Rodney and person who opened and owned DeGoffs, would be ten years older than I am and I left half a century behind over a decade ago.

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    Mark at Immortal Arms is top notch. To borrow a phrase from my Grandfather.... 'He's good people'....



    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    There's also these two in Culpeper:
    Immortal Arms
    We are by appointment...please don't just "drop" by, we may be out on the range and unable to assist you.

    http://immortalarms.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by richarcm View Post
    Is it not possible to buy your gun from Greentop for example and ask that they transfer it to a store in Hampton that knows how to process the paperwork correctly?
    Well, yes it probably is, if you are willing to pay the shipping and a handling fee, plus go through another background check. And presuming they are willing to take up the time to do so, as opposed to you taking it with you because they are pretty well up on all the ins and outs of the 4473 process, seeing as they do (used to do?) so many every day.

    Why not just start out early in the morning so you arrive at Green Top about when they open. If you run into a delay you have the whole day to visit The City With The Largest Collection of Second Place Trophies. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jREUrbGGrgM

    If the delay extends past closing time, just think of it as a second opportnity to visit River City http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s60hOgqLFGg . I'm sure with 3 days notice we could find a few folks to meet you for lunch.

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    Here's who I've used in VA BH, sane and friendly:

    Coastal Gun Works LLC
    5003 Admiral Wright Road
    Virginia Beach, VA 23462
    Office (757) 496-6694
    Fax (757) 819-0644
    www.coastalgunworks.com

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    Why Gun Store Employees Are So Rude

    I have often wondered why so many gun store employees are so rude. I have heard all of their excuses. I think that the main reason is that they are armed and everyone knows it. I know that this violates the “an armed society= a polite society” saying. But think about it, dealing with the general public if a shoe salesman had they type of attitude problems that many gun store employees have they would be getting knocked out at least once per week.

    I know that high demand also plays a factor, they have so many customers willing to spend so much money that they really don’t need your business. Additionally you usually are dealing with a low paid hourly employee and not the owner. These uneducated, often lower class employees think that they have more knowledge than guns smiths, NRA instructors, and life long collectors combined. They will often condescend to such people as if they are complete idiots. I am not sure if they get a commission off of the sale, but many certainly act like they don’t. The sale is a disturbance to their day. Again I go back to them being armed as the primary reason for their rudeness. Kind of like LEO, most are polite, but if they choose to be @#$%^ they can. Incidently my only encounters with LEO's in this area have been positive. Chesapeake police used their cruiser to push my car into a parking lot when it broke down at an intercection. Where I am from they just would have called a tow truck. VA Bch police seem ok as well, never have had any interaction with them. OCed past them a couple of times no issues.

    I have met some decent gun shop employees and owners. But I would say that they only comprise about 25% of the business. The rest are like those that I described above.
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    Gun Store Recomendations

    In the VA beach area the only two I haven't seen mentioned are Bob's gun shop in Norfolk. And The Armory in VA beach. Personally don't really recommend either solely based on the attitude of employees. I've been to both before the gun rush and was treated great. But since about Oct-Nov timeframe I will not go in either store. I would much rather pay more to a shop I know than be treated like I'm stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XDS45 View Post
    In the VA beach area the only two I haven't seen mentioned are Bob's gun shop in Norfolk. And The Armory in VA beach. Personally don't really recommend either solely based on the attitude of employees. I've been to both before the gun rush and was treated great. But since about Oct-Nov timeframe I will not go in either store. I would much rather pay more to a shop I know than be treated like I'm stupid.
    Its amazing how many people have had negative experiences with gun stores. I have never seen any other retail industry function like this. Perhaps some of the older guys on here might have some additional insights into why this is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mongoose72 View Post
    Its amazing how many people have had negative experiences with gun stores. I have never seen any other retail industry function like this. Perhaps some of the older guys on here might have some additional insights into why this is?
    If you do a search, I think there has been a fair amount of discussion about Bob's. It's a good one to avoid.

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    01FFL's must comply with zoning and have a business "premises" but it does not need to be a "storefront". Still plenty of "Kitchen table" FFL's out there.
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