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Ccw denied because of driving history?

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Tarik

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I applied for my permit and was denied because of driving history...driving with a suspended license. Liscence was suspended for failure to pa a moving violation..15 over the speed limit.
My question is this something to deny a permit for? I have absolutely no criminal record, and pass the background checks with flying colors when I purchase firearms. Is this Sherrif out of line? Is this something I should get a lawyer for?
This is in Monroe county btw.
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Tarik said:
I applied for my permit and was denied because of driving history...driving with a suspended license. Liscence was suspended for failure to pa a moving violation..15 over the speed limit.
My question is this something to deny a permit for? I have absolutely no criminal record, and pass the background checks with flying colors when I purchase firearms. Is this Sherrif out of line? Is this something I should get a lawyer for?
This is in Monroe county btw.
Thanks guys
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Was driving on a suspended license a crime that can be punishable by up to 1 year in jail? If so, the way I understand it is that you won't be able to get a license to carry in PA.

If not, then they still can deny you on the "character clause" of not having proper character to carry a weapon. This is a problem, especially around philly.... they can claim anything and everything shows that you don't have proper character to carry a firearm... I would contact a lawyer, preferably one who specializes in firearms.
 
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No sir. In fact, I was able to drive away. I have never been convicted of anything, never in trouble nothing. 5 year air force vet.
I contacted a lawyer, so we will see how it goes from there.
I have bern open carrying, waiting on the permit to be issued.

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My liscence was,suspended for failure to pay a speeding ticket

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Tarik said:
No sir. In fact, I was able to drive away. I have never been convicted of anything, never in trouble nothing. 5 year air force vet.
I contacted a lawyer, so we will see how it goes from there.
I have bern open carrying, waiting on the permit to be issued.

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Was the denial sent in writing, or was it just a verbal denial from the Sheriff?

Be careful open carrying - just make sure we are not in a state of emergency, that you don't get in/on any vehicle, and that you don't do it in Philly until you get your LTCF.

Good luck to you. If your lawyer doesn't work out, I know of a good firearms attorney you might want to try.
 
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I stopped in the sheriff office this morning to check the status because it had been over two months since I sent the application in.
When they looked up my file the sheriff said it was denied because of a driving with suspened licence.
He said I will recieve a letter in the mail.
The firarms attorney you have would be great! Thank you.
I remove the clip from the gun while in the car and re insert the clip when I exit. From my understanding that is the legal way to do it

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Tarik said:
I stopped in the sheriff office this morning to check the status because it had been over two months since I sent the application in.
When they looked up my file the sheriff said it was denied because of a driving with suspened licence.
He said I will recieve a letter in the mail.
The firarms attorney you have would be great! Thank you.
I remove the clip from the gun while in the car and re insert the clip when I exit. From my understanding that is the legal way to do it

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You can only have your firearm in your vehicle in PA without a LTCF if you are going to or from the range or gunsmith. Right now if you get pulled over, you could be charged with a felony.

I will PM you the lawyer's info.
 
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Agreed. Not to mention I don't believe the law is being followed in this situation.
I have to submit a formal appeal..pary $115 then wait for a court date.

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Tarik said:
Agreed. Not to mention I don't believe the law is being followed in this situation.
I have to submit a formal appeal..pary $115 then wait for a court date.

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115 BUCKS !! What !! WHo !! Freaking nuts !

I would ask the guy for the money ....
 
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Thats the price I was told by the appeal court

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Tarik said:
I stopped in the sheriff office this morning to check the status because it had been over two months since I sent the application in.
When they looked up my file the sheriff said it was denied because of a driving with suspened licence.
He said I will recieve a letter in the mail.
The firarms attorney you have would be great! Thank you.
I remove the clip from the gun while in the car and re insert the clip when I exit. From my understanding that is the legal way to do it

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You would be well advised to stop "talking" with the sheriff or his associates.

You're driving around with a "suspended license" is not going to do you any favors. Either your driving license is valid or it is not and as an adult in this day and age - YOU - are expected to know this.

As for your removing the clip from the gun while in the car - what is the matter with you? What is it about the English language that you do not understand?

tyc
 
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Why has no one stated the obvious???

You can carry in a vehicle with a license to carry from ANY state.

To conceal carry in the meantime, get a Maine license and carry on that, they are reciprocal with PA.
 
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Maine conceal licence? How do I do that without being a resident?

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tyc said:
You would be well advised to stop "talking" with the sheriff or his associates.

You're driving around with a "suspended license" is not going to do you any favors. Either your driving license is valid or it is not and as an adult in this day and age - YOU - are expected to know this.

As for your removing the clip from the gun while in the car - what is the matter with you? What is it about the English language that you do not understand?

tyc
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My licence was suspended...noylt is suspended..this was back in 2009

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Regardless im appealjng the sheriff's decision and taking it to court

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Tarik said:
Maine conceal licence? How do I do that without being a resident?

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I believe most responsible members of this site would poo-poo this loophole, so I realize the risk at stating this openly.... and this site is dedicated to OPEN CARRY. You might find more info offered up on a CC site.
BUT,
Look into a Florida non-res concealed permit. I handled mine entirely by mail. It took a couple weeks, and they mailed it back to me.
 
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Slidell Jim said:
I believe most responsible members of this site would poo-poo this loophole, so I realize the risk at stating this openly.... and this site is dedicated to OPEN CARRY. You might find more info offered up on a CC site.
BUT,
Look into a Florida non-res concealed permit. I handled mine entirely by mail. It took a couple weeks, and they mailed it back to me.
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Thanks buddy. I will look into it

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