MKEgal
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Kenneth O'Brien said:I consider allowing concealed and open carry in public places the worst example of immature anti-social society-poisoning potential violence our culture owns.
And Ken's reply was:You literally believe that a trained, licensed concealed-carry citizen is a worse example of "immature anti-social society-poisoning potential violence" than a gang-banger whose head is full of violent images from movies and video games?
Kenneth O'Brien said:Yes, of course. That is exactly my point.
Kenneth O'Brien said:There is nothing simple about turning over justice, security and punishment to the instantaneous assessment/whim of each and every private individual.
* Or perhaps, as Kathy Jackson puts it, "not me, not mine, not today".Kenneth O'Brien said:I believe that large numbers of 'good' people coming to believe it is a normal part of the culture for them to take on the job of instant judge jury and executioner everywhere in public places (while also internalizing the extended 'urban' hating mindset implicitly behind that) has much much worse and wider implications for our society than the subset acute violence involving the most pathological problems this wider and worse example of immature anti-social society-poisoning mindset helped create
sounds like Ken just wants to be a victim at best, a Tory at worst
Tell them that, then throw in, "NO, I REFUSE."He is free to choose to be a victim. I don't care.
However, he is asking for the taking of our Right, thereby choosing victimhood for us too. That is unacceptable.
He is free to choose to be a victim. I don't care.
However, he is asking for the taking of our Right, thereby choosing victimhood for us too. That is unacceptable.
An extreme view from an anti-rights voice
Originally Posted by Kenneth O'Brien, Lehigh U
There is nothing simple about turning over justice, security and punishment to the instantaneous assessment/whim of each and every private individual.
I would like to know when has this happened recently? I guess you could make the argument that there were vigilantes in the old west, but the only real justice and punishment administered outside the court system these days is by criminals who can't get legal help to right wrongs, LAC's that carry do so for self defence, not to be judge, jury, and executioner.
I sincerely pray that I am never in a situation where I have to use my pistol, but if I need it more prayer won't help as much as being prepared.
One thing I would like to say to anti gun people, if you were in Sandy Hook, what would you have done? Hid under the desk with the kids?
I and the group you like to call "gun nuts" would have gone 2 to the chest and one to the head.
Which seems to be a better answer to such an evil situation? If that means in your mind I am "turning over justice, security and punishment to the instantaneous assessment/whim of each and every private individual." than so be it.
Turning over the security of those children at Sandy Hook to a lawfully armed citizen should have been the preferred option until LE arrived to assist in, and then assume those security duties.Originally Posted by Kenneth O'Brien, Lehigh U
There is nothing simple about turning over justice, security and punishment to the instantaneous assessment/whim of each and every private individual.
I would like to know when has this happened recently? I guess you could make the argument that there were vigilantes in the old west, but the only real justice and punishment administered outside the court system these days is by criminals who can't get legal help to right wrongs, LAC's that carry do so for self defense, not to be judge, jury, and executioner.
I sincerely pray that I am never in a situation where I have to use my pistol, but if I need it more prayer won't help as much as being prepared.
One thing I would like to say to anti gun people, if you were in Sandy Hook, what would you have done? Hid under the desk with the kids?
I and the group you like to call "gun nuts" would have gone 2 to the chest and one to the head.
Which seems to be a better answer to such an evil situation? If that means in your mind I am "turning over justice, security and punishment to the instantaneous assessment/whim of each and every private individual." than so be it.
Turning over the security of those children at Sandy Hook to a lawfully armed citizen should have been the preferred option until LE arrived to assist in, and then assume those security duties.
[/Mr. Spock voice]Locic dictates, Captain, that if Pro-Gunners were as violent as Anti-Guners say they are, there wouldn't be any Anti-Gunners left.
[/Mr. Spock voice]
While it has always puzzled me why someone would get up in the face of a person obviously wearing a gun on their hip and insult that person, their morals, their judgement, and tell outrageous lies about their behavior as well as the relationship between the gun-toter's parents, it seems said individuals never appear to have any actual fear that the gun-toter would actually act in the ways of which they just accused them.
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stay safe.
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